[Blindmath] hydraulic full screen braille display

Sun Jul 11 06:05:19 UTC 2010

Hi Peter,
  Just for clarification, "matricies" is the plural of matrix.

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From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:52 AM
To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" 
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] hydraulic full screen braille display

> Ryan and or others:
>
>
>
>    Good some contribution to what I had to say for once about
> something with substance. Can you backup your claim? Give us an
> example of your matrices. I'm not sure what a matrices would be or
> anything at all for that matter. I guess you are refering to a matrix
> by chance? Also, my understanding of calculus with Derivatives and
> integrals have functions and these are for acceleration and velocity
> with surely other process in a four quadrant x, y and etc. I'd like to
> see what you can do in a one to four line display in braile and
> especially just a one line display that will be comprehendable to you
> in the long run. I remember when I took precalculus I had problems
> that on print would take up nearly a page or page and a half with a
> calculuator with sighted assistance with the visual aspects of the
> beast. Surely you could enlighten us all on your method?
>     I think the best way of doing mathematics of the advanced level
> is to see it all in one point going down as you go latterially. I
> cannt see that horizontally at all other than standard mathematics at
> all. I'm confused to what you mean and who could properly teach such
> methods to anyone in a understandable way. I'll find out when I
> actually take the classes right? This is conforting to someone who
> likes to be prepared for everything on the ground running. I mean I'm
> just confused to what aspects are visual and what aren't and from what
> I've heard from mainly sighted people that it's got lots of   room for
> interpretation of graphs wit connecting two or so things to make up a
> unique answer to this issue. How could that be done in another format
> translated and you create a solution with your answer? Thanks for
> further information you can shead on this crutial issue.
>
> sincerely,
> Peter
>
> On 7/10/10, Ryan Thomas <rlt56 at nau.edu> wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>>    I've read a lot of comments lately about the difficulty of doing
>> higher mathematics with a one or even four line braille display.  It's
>> entirely possible.  I understand that matricies are spacial, but even
>> they can be visualized in a row and column format using a one line
>> display.  Outside of matricies most math that I can thing of isn't
>> complicated by a one line read out.  Derivatives and integrals can
>> both be done.  In calc III there is a lot of visualization of three
>> dimentional figures, but even sighted students have to contend with
>> that issue and it's kind of the nature of the math itself.  I don't
>> think it's an accurate claim that the more complex math cannot be done
>> with the one line display.  I think you'll find the same as you
>> actually take the classes.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>    Ryan
>>
>> On 7/9/10, Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Le,
>>>
>>>
>>>     I've read about this project some cause my Program for Students
>>> with Disabilities assistant sent me an e-mail from North Carolina
>>> State University. Well, I think if you used simplication using
>>> standard Logic 101 you can tell that it's a dot conjuction meaning
>>> both must be true necessarily. Well, I think it should be a
>>> disjunction conjunction with an or cause it's only the braille with
>>> especially the four line proposal on the table now. Nothing was stated
>>> about images in the article and that is unfortunately ashame. However,
>>> it's something to expand our mind around for the time being. Images
>>> are  very abstract and hard to join together. The proposed 4 line
>>> display is going to be useful in simple mathematics and some algebra
>>> from simple deduction and not so much on high end mathematics at this
>>> stage of development.
>>>
>>> On 7/8/10, qubit <lauraeaves at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> The following link was the topic of discussion on the sci-tech list a
>>>> while
>>>> back. If you want to know more, such as if/when it will be productized,
>>>> ask
>>>> Sina Bahram.
>>>> I wonder if this could do both braille and graphics.  The technology is
>>>> coming, if people demand it.
>>>> --le
>>>>
>>>> Hydraulics Could Enable Fullscreen Braille Display | Gadget Lab |
>>>> Wired.com
>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/braille-display/
>>>>
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