[Blindmath] Matrices, appendices, &, now, vertices

Sun Jul 11 20:41:24 UTC 2010

and latices is the plural of latex? nah, sorry...*smile*

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nelson Blachman" <nelson.blachman at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:42 PM
Subject: [Blindmath] Matrices, appendices, &, now, vertices

and "vertices" is the plural of "vertex."

  Nelson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] hydraulic full screen braille display

> Uncommonly it's  matrixes according to Wikipedia found at
> URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(mathematics)
> note: technically both are right though and maybe we all just learned
> something.
>
> On 7/11/10, Christine Szostak <szostak.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>   Just for clarification, "matricies" is the plural of matrix.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:52 AM
>> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
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>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] hydraulic full screen braille display
>>
>>> Ryan and or others:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Good some contribution to what I had to say for once about
>>> something with substance. Can you backup your claim? Give us an
>>> example of your matrices. I'm not sure what a matrices would be or
>>> anything at all for that matter. I guess you are refering to a matrix
>>> by chance? Also, my understanding of calculus with Derivatives and
>>> integrals have functions and these are for acceleration and velocity
>>> with surely other process in a four quadrant x, y and etc. I'd like to
>>> see what you can do in a one to four line display in braile and
>>> especially just a one line display that will be comprehendable to you
>>> in the long run. I remember when I took precalculus I had problems
>>> that on print would take up nearly a page or page and a half with a
>>> calculuator with sighted assistance with the visual aspects of the
>>> beast. Surely you could enlighten us all on your method?
>>>     I think the best way of doing mathematics of the advanced level
>>> is to see it all in one point going down as you go latterially. I
>>> cannt see that horizontally at all other than standard mathematics at
>>> all. I'm confused to what you mean and who could properly teach such
>>> methods to anyone in a understandable way. I'll find out when I
>>> actually take the classes right? This is conforting to someone who
>>> likes to be prepared for everything on the ground running. I mean I'm
>>> just confused to what aspects are visual and what aren't and from what
>>> I've heard from mainly sighted people that it's got lots of   room for
>>> interpretation of graphs wit connecting two or so things to make up a
>>> unique answer to this issue. How could that be done in another format
>>> translated and you create a solution with your answer? Thanks for
>>> further information you can shead on this crutial issue.
>>>
>>> sincerely,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 7/10/10, Ryan Thomas <rlt56 at nau.edu> wrote:
>>>> Peter,
>>>>
>>>>    I've read a lot of comments lately about the difficulty of doing
>>>> higher mathematics with a one or even four line braille display.  It's
>>>> entirely possible.  I understand that matricies are spacial, but even
>>>> they can be visualized in a row and column format using a one line
>>>> display.  Outside of matricies most math that I can thing of isn't
>>>> complicated by a one line read out.  Derivatives and integrals can
>>>> both be done.  In calc III there is a lot of visualization of three
>>>> dimentional figures, but even sighted students have to contend with
>>>> that issue and it's kind of the nature of the math itself.  I don't
>>>> think it's an accurate claim that the more complex math cannot be done
>>>> with the one line display.  I think you'll find the same as you
>>>> actually take the classes.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>    Ryan
>>>>
>>>> On 7/9/10, Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Le,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     I've read about this project some cause my Program for Students
>>>>> with Disabilities assistant sent me an e-mail from North Carolina
>>>>> State University. Well, I think if you used simplication using
>>>>> standard Logic 101 you can tell that it's a dot conjuction meaning
>>>>> both must be true necessarily. Well, I think it should be a
>>>>> disjunction conjunction with an or cause it's only the braille with
>>>>> especially the four line proposal on the table now. Nothing was stated
>>>>> about images in the article and that is unfortunately ashame. However,
>>>>> it's something to expand our mind around for the time being. Images
>>>>> are  very abstract and hard to join together. The proposed 4 line
>>>>> display is going to be useful in simple mathematics and some algebra
>>>>> from simple deduction and not so much on high end mathematics at this
>>>>> stage of development.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/8/10, qubit <lauraeaves at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The following link was the topic of discussion on the sci-tech list a
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> back. If you want to know more, such as if/when it will be
>>>>>> productized,
>>>>>> ask
>>>>>> Sina Bahram.
>>>>>> I wonder if this could do both braille and graphics.  The technology
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> coming, if people demand it.
>>>>>> --le
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hydraulics Could Enable Fullscreen Braille Display | Gadget Lab |
>>>>>> Wired.com
>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/braille-display/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> Christine M. Szostak
>> Graduate Student
>> Language Perception Lab
>> Department of Psychology, Cognitive Area
>> The Ohio State University
>> Columbus, Ohio
>> szostak.1 at osu.edu
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