[Blindmath] accessible online math resources

Thu May 12 17:34:11 UTC 2011

Gaylen

Great, thanks for that, I'll contact you off list once I have
something to contribute. :)
Thanks
-Birkir

On 5/12/11, Gaylen Kapperman <gkapperman at niu.edu> wrote:
> Birkir
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> Yes, I would welcome any suggestions...I don't know if we will have
> the opportunity to make changs or not, but I am more than willing to
> entertain some  suggestions.
> Gaylen
>
> At 11:09 AM 5/12/2011, you wrote:
>>Gaylen
>>
>>Great resource, not sure why I have not already read this at some point.
>>A few comments and suggestions come to mind as I read through this.
>>If you are, or foresee you may be, updating and adding facts, ideas
>>and other material, I could certainly make a list of suggestions as I
>>read through this.
>>As it is, it's very helpful and a good resource, and I will need a few
>>days to read through it all. :)
>>Thanks
>>-Birkir
>>
>>
>>On 5/12/11, Gaylen Kapperman <gkapperman at niu.edu> wrote:
>> > Go to
>> >                  www.tsbvi.edu
>> > and go to the link to resources and click on that and then go to the
>> > link for math and then go to the link for Project Math Access and in
>> > that area, you will find a large piece that I have written on math
>> > and you can find a portion of that  on spoken math and that describes
>> > what all of the major symbols look like as well as how they are
>> > spoken and  how they are written in the Nemeth Code...that was done
>> > specifically for this situation  in which blind folks studying math
>> > need to engage the services of a sighted reader who does not
>> > know  mathematics well at all.
>> > Good luck.
>> > Gaylen Kapperman
>> > Northern Illinois University
>> >
>> >
>> > At 07:23 AM 5/12/2011, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
>> >>This is a very good point. I lost at least 150 points on my math SAT,
>> >>because I had someone write it for me, who did not even know what the
>> >>cosine symbol looked like, kept describing the printed symbol for me,
>> >>hoping for me to recognize it (I think it was the cosnie symbol, it
>> >>was a while ago).
>> >>I did take the SATs, at a U.S. military base in Iceland, so I am sure
>> >>the standards for tests administerred within the U.S. is higher (or at
>> >>least I hope so).
>> >>Also keep in mind, while readers are a quick solution, sometimes
>> >>necessary, that using readers is something you will not be able to do
>> >>easily once you graduate. Over reliance on readers, over finding other
>> >>ways to access math material, can free publishers and providers from
>> >>having to think about accessibility, and once you are in a job and you
>> >>need to brush up on something math intensive, you may have to hire a
>> >>reader with your own money to achieve that task.
>> >>I had issues with that in banking and I missed out on research project
>> >>within risk management that required near instant access to an
>> >>800-page text on measuring asset portfolio performance, because I had
>> >>no time or options to make it accessible.
>> >>If you have luck with demanding TeX or MathML from publishers or even
>> >>co-workers or teachers, or scanning text with, for instance,
>> >>InftyReader, then you have built a better foundation for you and
>> >>others, and created increased awareness of the problem, which can be
>> >>solved, but people are just reluctant to do so.
>> >>This is a bit of a philosophical point, and if you need a reader, you
>> >>need a reader, whatever gets the job done. But it is important to be
>> >>aware of the future and thinking about how you can get to where you
>> >>want to go in the career you choose, which sometimes may require
>> >>campaigning for accessibility and exploring software and hardware
>> >>options for solving the problems involved.
>> >>End of lecture *grin*
>> >>-Birkir
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On 5/12/11, Jerry Richer <jerry at chirpingbat.com> wrote:
>> >> >      RFBD's stuff is all audio.  Real people reading.  Most books are
>> >> > read
>> >> > by qualified people though.  The reading can get very confusing
>> >> at times but
>> >> > it's the best we have for now.
>> >> >
>> >> >                Jerry
>> >> >
>> >> >
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