[Blindmath] Somewhat positive yet disappointing press release

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Thu May 26 21:41:05 CDT 2011


Maybe Neil will feel like explaining more, but the odds are that whatever GW Micro does will likely benefit Freedom Scientific.  I must say that I'm a little 
surprised that people would feel that Freedom Scientific was wronged here when they chose to not put anything into this project and to sit back and 
benefit from the work of others.  I'm not sure there is any way to interpret math in a way that is so standard that screen readers won't have to do some 
work.  In addition, the model of how software is made accessible is changing and screen readers are having to make some adjustments.  We are very 
much moving away from MSAA toward UI Automation, and this does require some effort on the part of screen readers.  Over time, there will be more 
standard ways of handling this, but it does worry me some that there seems to be a significant amount of work that screen readers have to do to make 
individual software accessible.  Time will tell how it all works out.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 27 May 2011 01:26:06 +0000, patti at 4dewitt.com wrote:

>In addition, as a technology teacher of the blind in nj, most kids are at the mercy of the commission or the schools for their technology. They get them 
jaws most times.
>Universal access is my dream. It should all be interconnected
>On the other hand, Jaws users have a huge underground of script writers who may already have solved my problem

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>See this is where I have to ask.  If you use standards like html 5 and make
>sure that things are more than just accessible to screen readers it won't be
>hard for companies like FS to keep it accessible.  This shouldn't be a war
>against companies it should be a war to make Math accessible whether a
>person uses sight or sound or smell to read math.  If standards of the world
>are followed rather than making up a standard just for the blind then it
>won't be an issue.

>Ken

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>Behalf Of Neil Soiffer
>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:13 PM
>To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Somewhat positive yet disappointing press release

>We are adding new functionality (eg, navigation for math and being able to
>read math directly in a word doc without saving to a web page first).
>Unless JAWS or other AT adds code to their product to take make the
>appropriate calls to the new interfaces that get defined, it won't pick up
>that new functionality.

>Neil Soiffer
>Senior Scientist
>Design Science, Inc.
>www.dessci.com


>On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Patti Mitchell <patti at 4dewitt.com> wrote:

>> Is Jaws using something else?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On
>> Behalf Of Neil Soiffer
>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:08 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Somewhat positive yet disappointing press release
>>
>> We would like as many screen readers as possible to be part of this work.
>> Freedom Scientific did not want to participate in the grant, GW Micro did.
>> I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want math support in
>your
>> AT, you need to make it very clear to your AT vendor that if they don't
>> support math well, you'll use a different product that does.
>>
>> Neil Soiffer
>> Senior Scientist
>> Design Science, Inc.
>> www.dessci.com
>> ~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor ~
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Jose Tamayo <jtblas at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In the press release below, JAWS is not mentioned at all.  This is
>> > such a significant press release yet a market player such as JAWS is
>> > not even mentioned, any reason?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.dessci.com/en/company/press/releases/110524.htm
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>> > http://www.
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>> > dessci.com/en/company/press/releases/110524.htm
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