[Blindmath] Your opportunity to influence the accessibility of acollege math course

Mon Nov 21 20:02:46 UTC 2011

I think 7 and 8 do what they're supposed to. With NVDA and Firefox I 
perceive them something like this.

u x0 z1
v x1 z2
w x2 z3

The only difference I see between 7 and 8 is that 8 causes NVDA to anounce 
that it is entering a table. 7 does not, so if I hadn't known this was 
supposed to be a table I may not have tried table commands.

Amanda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Baldwin" <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com>
To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" 
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Your opportunity to influence the accessibility of 
acollege math course

> Hi Michael,
>
> I have attached a zip file containing a short xhtml file containing 
> several
> different table formats that could be used to house matrices.
>
> Can you take a look and see which, if any of these formats are recognized
> as tables by VoiceOver. Also if someone could take a look and see if any 
> of
> them are incompatible with Jaws, NVDA, or any other popular screen reader
> that would also be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
> Dick Baldwin
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Michael Whapples 
> <mwhapples at aim.com>wrote:
>
>> I encounter similar issues to Amanda when viewing it on the Mac with
>> VoiceOver. VoiceOver fails to see any of the matrices as tables and for
>> each element it makes a noise indicating moving to another line.
>>
>> As a slight hint for what might be going on, the tables used for the
>> listings of code samples work fine and are seen as tables by VoiceOver.
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>> On 21 Nov 2011, at 14:35, Richard Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> > The values are correct. In print, the three matrices appear 
>> > side-by-side
>> > instead of being strung out as a single column matrix containing nine
>> > elements.
>> >
>> > Would anyone like to suggest a way to make that format apparent to
>> someone
>> > examining the three matrices using a screen reader?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dick Baldwin
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Amanda Lacy <lacy925 at gmail.com> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> In Math1006, you wrote:
>> >> This page in Kjell's tutorial contains the following structure
>> containing
>> >> three column matrices:
>> >> u
>> >> v
>> >> w
>> >> x0
>> >> x1
>> >> x2
>> >> z1
>> >> z2
>> >> z3
>> >>
>> >> At least that's how it looks to me. Is it right?
>> >>
>> >> Amanda
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Baldwin" <
>> >> baldwin at dickbaldwin.com>
>> >> To: "BlindMath Mailing List" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:00 PM
>> >> Subject: [Blindmath] Your opportunity to influence the accessibility 
>> >> of
>> >> acollege math course
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am in the process of developing accessible courseware for the
>> following
>> >>> course that I will be teaching in the Spring 2012 semester at Austin
>> >>> Community College, Austin, TX.
>> >>>
>> >>> GAME 2302 - Mathematical Applications for Game Development
>> >>>
>> >>> Description: Presents applications of mathematics and science in game
>> and
>> >>> simulation programming. Includes the utilization of matrix and vector
>> >>> operations, kinematics, and Newtonian principles in games and
>> simulations.
>> >>> Also covers code optimization.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have completed the first draft of the first few modules and have
>> >>> attached
>> >>> a zip file containing that material.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you would like to review that material and make recommendations 
>> >>> for
>> >>> improved accessibility, I would like to hear those suggestions. I 
>> >>> can't
>> >>> promise that I will implement all recommendations, but I will 
>> >>> certainly
>> >>> consider them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Unzip the material from the attached zip file into an empty folder 
>> >>> and
>> >>> open
>> >>> the index file named Math0100.htm in your browser. Follow the links 
>> >>> in
>> the
>> >>> index to the other modules.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Dick Baldwin
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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