[Blindmath] A Lot of SVG?

Sat Oct 29 17:24:15 UTC 2011

Hi,

 Math accessibility by JAWS is my hot topic/obsession and I have been
working with our accessibility guru at our community college.  We have found
two things. We can publish a math page through Math Type and JAWS will read
it if we publish it with the Math Player ( IE behavior) option.  We are also
going to be experimenting with MathJax which is an open source Java Script
software that is installed at the server level so that anything published
with Math Type can be accessed by students from multiple browsers.  We are
also looking at some options that may be able to give us the ability to get
higher mathematics on Blackboard that is fully accessible and when that
happens you will hear me screaming from the rafters !!  Publishers are
getting the message that math accessibility is a hot topic and are listening
to Disability Support Providers.

Bente J. Casile

-----Original Message-----
From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:03 PM
To: john.gardner at orst.edu; Blind Math list for those interested in
mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] A Lot of SVG?

Hi

I think the reason this topic is "hot" has partly to do with the
product being developed rapidly, although unfortunately it also has a
lot to do with the fact that not much is happening in math
accessibility at the moment, as far as I know.
I haven't used the app much, though I intend to, but I am very
impressed that one guy has decided to take it upon himself to
revolutionize access to both interpretation and creation of graphs
(with no slide to people like John and others, who have done a
fantastic job, and are doing a fantastic job by both giving advice and
integrating this work into their hardware solutions). Input from the
list is quickly taken into development and we see tangible progress
almost every day.

I keep hoping for some big announcement of progress on other fronts,
such as better math support by a screen reader, or the release of the
long anticipated MathPlayer 3, but nothing has happened in that area
for quite some time.

Apart from these two projects, I am not sure what is on the horizon
for math and math accessibility, nothing that I know of, but I'm
always happy to be surprised.

If you group your posts by topic/conversation thread, you shouldn't
get more than about one or two posts a day from this list. At least it
works for me.
If not, and you have Outlook, you can redirect all posts from that
list to its own folder, using Outlook rules (you can just shift-f10 on
the message and find the rule menu from there). It is very handy for
managing large email traffic. If you need any tips with how to do
that, feel free to email me off-list. :)
Cheers
-B

On 10/29/11, John Gardner <john.gardner at orst.edu> wrote:
> Hello Christine, this list often sees clusters of conversations centering
on
> one topic for a period of time, but things have always then settled back
to
> normal.  While this SVG discussion is pretty intense, I believe it is very
> important to people who need to do math, and I would hate to see it
> separate.  For hard core participants on this list, all it would mean is
two
> lists.  And you know how things frequently get reflected from list to
list.
> So many posts would then start appearing on both lists.  I am already
> reading many posts twice because they appear on the Accessible Graphics
> list.  So I, for one, would vote to keep the SVG discussion on this list.
> Traffic will no doubt decrease as the app matures.
>
> But I sure do understand your concern with list traffic.  If there is a
> digest version of this list, maybe you could use that?  I use digests for
> several lists, and it helps a lot with time management.
>
> John G
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
> Behalf Of Christine Szostak
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 8:49 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: [Blindmath] A Lot of SVG?
>
> Dear Friends and Colleagues,
>   Perhaps this is my impression alone, but it seems like this list has
> suddenly become very focused on announcing every new change/version of SVG
> and moved away from its original intent. I realize its potential and
> understand the value, but given that there are often 10+ emails about this
> product alone every day that often are meant to discuss strengths/limits
of
> the product, announce every new update... , I am wondering if there needs
to
> be a separate list for just this. Perhaps one great option might be to
> construct a forum on the website where those using it can contribute so
that
> even those who are not part of this list may benefit and so that more
> elaborated discussions  can emerge in a more directly connected location.
>
>
>   Again, I think it is a product with wonderful potential and understand
its
> value to the VI-community but I am finding that much of the discussion on
> this list of late is becoming questions as to the  strengths and bugs
> associated with this product. This  may not be an opinion shared by the
> list-at-large  and thus if I am alone in this thought, feel free to
> disregard this message though this just seems like a  discussion that is
> becoming worthy of its own list as it seems to be taking on a life of its
> own.
> thanks!
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