[Blindmath] MathML: JAWS does not render greek symbols or minuses and NVDA doesn't render any formulae/symbols

[Roopakshi Pathania]

Hey Kevin!

I'm writing to this list after a really long time. 
Anyway the settings that you are looking for is under Tools > Options > Advance tab > Security > "Always allow active content in files to run on my computer."

Hope that helps...
:D


Sent from my Lenovo ThinkPad

--- On Tue, 4/3/12, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Kevin Chao <kevinchao89 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] MathML: JAWS does not render greek symbols or minuses and NVDA doesn't render any formulae/symbols
To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 9:39 PM


Yes, with IE8, MP2.2, and JAWS 12:
All other aspects of formula and symbols are working as expected.

Aside from checking in Programs and Features and Design
Science>MathPlayer website, is there a way to check of MathPlayer is
installed and is working properly? It doesn’t show up as a process in
task manager, in IE add-ons, or anywhere to show that it is actually
running.

We are not using MathPlayer 3.0 due to it being a preview/beta, made
specifically for IE9, and wanted to get rid of one variable to
debug/troubleshoot.

I am trying to view the XML MathML locally. The URL points to my
Public Dropbox folder, which contains the zip archive.

Provided that I am trying to view the source locally, can you please
point me to the specific local security setting that I need to change,
which will allow this XML with MathML to render properly with NVDA and
JAWS?

I am not sure what was used to author the MathML, but I will check
with our production team and will see if it was Word with MathType.

I am not trying to view the docx, but the XML in IE8, MP 2.2, and NVDA 2012.1

Thanks,

Kevin


On 4/3/12, bente at casilenc.com <bente at casilenc.com> wrote:
> It can be very frustrating.  Try to save your word file as a .doc instead
> of the .docx that windows 7 automatically uses.  I have had trouble with
> that in the past but it seems to work if I save the Word as a 97 - 2003
> .doc
>
> Best of luck
>
> Bente Casile
>
>
>
>
>  Why not use MathPlayer 3 (could work better)?
>> Are you trying to view the source locally or online (I take it the
>> latter, if you are using the URL). If this is locally there are
>> security settings in IE that will prevent the math from rendering
>> publically, and you must change the security setting for local content
>> to allow active content. I've had that problem before.
>> Also, if the math is authorred in Word with MathType, all math must be
>> authorred in the MathType environment. If you go for a shortcut, such
>> as inserting single symbols without using MathType, it won't create a
>> MathML string for that type,and subsequently, won't necessarily be
>> read correctly by MathPlayer.
>> Not sure any of this is to blame, but it is very odd if you are having
>> problems only with certain math symbols.
>> hth
>> -B
>>
>> On 4/2/12, Sina Bahram <sbahram at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> So I take it that you have MathPplayer installed and working on the
>>> other
>>> parts of the document, yes?
>>>
>>> In other words, the other pieces of MathML do read correctly? Because
>>> otherwise it would be just easy to ask why MathML isnt' working, period.
>>>
>>>
>>> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
>>> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Kevin Chao
>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:47 PM
>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] MathML: JAWS does not render greek symbols or
>>> minuses and NVDA doesn't render any formulae/symbols
>>>
>>> I am really puzzled about why this isn't working properly with either
>>> NVDA or JAWS. I would like to determine where the issue is exactly,
>>> get more details, and try to get it resolved.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/2/12, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> After getting IT/Matt to debug/troubleshoot, we have the same issue,
>>>> where:
>>>> JAWS will not read greek symbols, e.g. rho and alph or minuses
>>>> NVDA will not read any of the formulae or symbols.
>>>>
>>>> Please find 5 page test sample XML containing MathML here:
>>>> http://goo.gl/XdKCu
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 x86, Internet Explorer 8, and MathPlayer 2.2
>>>>
>>>> JAWS 12
>>>> o Ï =0
>>>> Rho greek symbol isn’t reading
>>>>
>>>> H1:Ï >0 or H1:Ï <0 or H1:Ï â‰ 0
>>>> Rho greek symbol isn’t reading at all
>>>>
>>>> t=n−21−r2 with d.f=n−2
>>>> not reading minuses
>>>>
>>>> (n≥3)
>>>> Not reading greater than or equal to correctly, just equal to
>>>>
>>>> H0:Ï =0.
>>>> Not reading rho
>>>>
>>>> n≥
>>>> not reading greater than/equal to
>>>>
>>>> t=n−21−r2
>>>> not reading minuses
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NVDA 2012.1
>>>> Not reading any of the symbols/formulae, only text
>>>>
>>>
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