[Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 67, Issue 10

Maylene Bird maylenebird at gmail.com
Sat Feb 11 18:30:34 UTC 2012


Low vision and the ipad
Just thought I'd share what one of my algebra 1 students with low vision is
doing for homework as of this week.  He uses a cctv to look at the book and
now writes his answers on an ipad using a stylus.  The technology teacher
set him up with this.  The student emails each page of work to me from the
ipad.  He found this is much faster than pen and paper.  The next step is
to put all the separate pages together as one document.  Pretty neat.



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>   1. AGC and Square Roots (Sharon Clark)
>   2. Re: AGC and Square Roots (minh ha)
>   3. Re: AGC and Square Roots (John Gardner)
>   4. Re: AGC and Square Roots (Sharon Clark)
>   5. Re: To all you blind physics experts (Louis Maher)
>   6. Re: AGC and Square Roots (John Gardner)
>   7. Re: AGC and Square Roots (Sharon Clark)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:28:44 -0500
> From: "Sharon Clark" <sharonjackson03 at comcast.net>
> To: <Blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
> Message-ID: <002f01cce832$95f32310$c1d96930$@comcast.net>
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> Hello,
>
>
>
> Does the Audio Graphing Calculator 3.0 have the ability to graph the square
> root of x?  The program would allow my student to type the expression into
> data set 1, but a graph would not appear.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your assistance with this program.
>
>
>
> Sharon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:20:03 -0500
> From: minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>        <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
> Message-ID:
>        <CAAJqG9hj6H=anj518Dft=ms-G8+dqpSThDJanjhQ2JX+8cLtcg at mail.gmail.com
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> Hi Sharon,
>
> AGC does graph square roots of functions. However, I usually don't put
> in square root of x. Instead, try typing x^1/2 since it's the same as
> square root. I find it works better.
>
> Cheers
> Minh
>
>
> On 2/10/12, Sharon Clark <sharonjackson03 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > Does the Audio Graphing Calculator 3.0 have the ability to graph the
> square
> > root of x?  The program would allow my student to type the expression
> into
> > data set 1, but a graph would not appear.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your assistance with this program.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sharon
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:29:53 -0800
> From: "John Gardner" <john.gardner at orst.edu>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>        <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
> Message-ID: <00cc01cce83b$21dbf700$6593e500$@gardner at orst.edu>
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> Yes of course AGC will plot the square root of x, but you need to exclude
> zero and negative x, because the square root of those are not defined.
>  Well
> are not real numbers anyhow.
>
> If you want to see the graph on screen, press F3 or go to the menus to turn
> on visual graph.
>
> John Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Sharon Clark
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:29 PM
> To: Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Does the Audio Graphing Calculator 3.0 have the ability to graph the square
> root of x?  The program would allow my student to type the expression into
> data set 1, but a graph would not appear.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your assistance with this program.
>
>
>
> Sharon
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:48:12 -0500
> From: "Sharon Clark" <sharonjackson03 at comcast.net>
> To: <john.gardner at orst.edu>,    "'Blind Math list for those interested in
>        mathematics'"   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
> Message-ID: <000d01cce83d$b023d850$106b88f0$@comcast.net>
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> When the student typed in the expression the AGC evaluated the expression
> but would not play the graph.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of John Gardner
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:30 PM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> Yes of course AGC will plot the square root of x, but you need to exclude
> zero and negative x, because the square root of those are not defined.
>  Well
> are not real numbers anyhow.
>
> If you want to see the graph on screen, press F3 or go to the menus to turn
> on visual graph.
>
> John Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Sharon Clark
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:29 PM
> To: Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Does the Audio Graphing Calculator 3.0 have the ability to graph the square
> root of x?  The program would allow my student to type the expression into
> data set 1, but a graph would not appear.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your assistance with this program.
>
>
>
> Sharon
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:41:59 -0600
> From: "Louis Maher" <ljmaher at swbell.net>
> To: "'Amanda Lacy'" <lacy925 at gmail.com>,        "'Blind Math list for
> those
>        interested in mathematics'"     <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] To all you blind physics experts
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> Amanda,
>
> I did Braille out the book pages for the next day's lesson, both words and
> equations, and bound them in three-ring binders.  Usually I did not take
> them to class.  I would listen to the lecture, and try to keep up with what
> was being written on the board.  My professors and classmates were very
> understanding for I had a Perkins brailler to take notes in class.  The
> professors were willing to be trained to talk as they wrote, and to not use
> pronouns such as this and that.
>
> Brailling the book was very time consuming, and added an extra couple of
> hours to each day.
>
> I had some sight at that time, and I turned in my homework using a
> heavy-led
> pencil and two inch high letters.  The homework was mostly math and not
> words.
>
> I used a typewriter for non-mathematical courses.
>
> You will be slower than your counterparts; however, eventually you can get
> it done.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Louis Maher
> 713-444-7838
> ljmaher at swbell.net
> http://www.nfbtx.org/localchapters/houston
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amanda Lacy [mailto:lacy925 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:23 AM
> To: ljmaher at swbell.net; Blind Math list for those interested in
> mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] To all you blind physics experts
>
> Lois,
>
> I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't learn as much from spoken
> words. I end up writing down all the equations from the book. Would you
> Braille these out and take them with you to class, and did this help you in
> lecture?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis Maher" <ljmaher at swbell.net>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] To all you blind physics experts
>
>
> > If possible, I read the class material before I got to class.  I know
> > this is another large time commitment.
> >
> > I had some vision, and I used this reduced vision, along with the
> > Learning Ally book, to braille out my text book at four pages an hour.
> > I could only learn from braille not sound.  If possible, get the book
> > in Braille if not at least electronically on a Braille display.  I
> > know this is very difficult.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Louis Maher
> > 713-444-7838
> > ljmaher at swbell.net
> > http://www.nfbtx.org/localchapters/houston
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Amanda Lacy
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:23 AM
> > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > Subject: [Blindmath] To all you blind physics experts
> >
> > There seem to be several of you on here, so I am hoping for some
> > advice even though this isn't exactly about math.
> >
> > I am currently in general physics II and beginning to struggle. My
> > physics professor (Prof. Underwood) says that the units which will
> > probably be the hardest for me are electromagnetism (the one we're on
> > now) and optics. I have the book from Learning Ally and write down all
> > the homework problems and important equations on the computer. I've
> > also started experimenting with one of Prof. Baldwin's programs in
> > order to emboss important diagrams and follow along in class. I try to
> ask
> lots of questions during Prof.
> > Baldwin's office hours, in class, and in lab. I have a tactile drawing
> > pad and at least two people who give me pieces of there time and
> > expertise when they can, but still I am lost in class. The subject
> > matter is so visual that Prof. Underwood is often drawing and
> > redrawing complex things on the board as he lectures. Then I hear such
> > tantalizing statements as, "learn this right-hand rule," or "this very
> > important concept explains how an electric motor works." I hadn't
> > followed whatever it was which led to such statements. At the end of
> > class, my unanswered questions are often more numerous than they had
> > been at the beginning. As a consequence of not following lecture, some
> > of my homework looks completely unfamiliar to me so that I have no
> > idea how to proceed. Prof. Underwood is talking about building some 3D
> > models for me. He is really doing the best he can and sometimes seems
> > unsure what to do with me. I don't always know what to do with me
> > either.
> >
> > If any of you can describe strategies you used which did not rely on
> > vision, I would be grateful. I am genuinely curious about what I'm
> > supposed to be studying. If I can satisfy that curiosity, then the A
> > will come on its own, as it always does.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amanda
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:10:36 -0800
> From: "John Gardner" <john.gardner at orst.edu>
> To: "'Sharon Clark'" <sharonjackson03 at comcast.net>,     "'Blind Math list
>        for those interested in mathematics'"   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
> Message-ID: <000001cce873$1c0192d0$5404b870$@gardner at orst.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> I just opened AGC, put in a range 0.1 to 10 with 500 points, put x^(1/2) in
> the data set, pressed Enter to compute it, then pressed F5 to play the
> graph.  It worked but sounded kind of dull.  So I pressed F6 to play it
> with
> (vertical axis) tick marks.  I could visualize it pretty well.
>
> John Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sharon Clark [mailto:sharonjackson03 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:48 PM
> To: john.gardner at orst.edu; 'Blind Math list for those interested in
> mathematics'
> Subject: RE: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> When the student typed in the expression the AGC evaluated the expression
> but would not play the graph.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of John Gardner
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:30 PM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> Yes of course AGC will plot the square root of x, but you need to exclude
> zero and negative x, because the square root of those are not defined.
>  Well
> are not real numbers anyhow.
>
> If you want to see the graph on screen, press F3 or go to the menus to turn
> on visual graph.
>
> John Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Sharon Clark
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:29 PM
> To: Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Does the Audio Graphing Calculator 3.0 have the ability to graph the square
> root of x?  The program would allow my student to type the expression into
> data set 1, but a graph would not appear.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your assistance with this program.
>
>
>
> Sharon
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:16:59 -0500
> From: "Sharon Clark" <sharonjackson03 at comcast.net>
> To: <john.gardner at orst.edu>,    "'Blind Math list for those interested in
>        mathematics'"   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
> Message-ID: <000f01cce8c7$d1939db0$74bad910$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thanks, I'll have him try it.
>
> Sharon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Gardner [mailto:john.gardner at orst.edu]
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:11 PM
> To: 'Sharon Clark'; 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Subject: RE: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> I just opened AGC, put in a range 0.1 to 10 with 500 points, put x^(1/2) in
> the data set, pressed Enter to compute it, then pressed F5 to play the
> graph.  It worked but sounded kind of dull.  So I pressed F6 to play it
> with
> (vertical axis) tick marks.  I could visualize it pretty well.
>
> John Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sharon Clark [mailto:sharonjackson03 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:48 PM
> To: john.gardner at orst.edu; 'Blind Math list for those interested in
> mathematics'
> Subject: RE: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> When the student typed in the expression the AGC evaluated the expression
> but would not play the graph.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of John Gardner
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:30 PM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> Yes of course AGC will plot the square root of x, but you need to exclude
> zero and negative x, because the square root of those are not defined.
>  Well
> are not real numbers anyhow.
>
> If you want to see the graph on screen, press F3 or go to the menus to turn
> on visual graph.
>
> John Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Sharon Clark
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:29 PM
> To: Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] AGC and Square Roots
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Does the Audio Graphing Calculator 3.0 have the ability to graph the square
> root of x?  The program would allow my student to type the expression into
> data set 1, but a graph would not appear.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your assistance with this program.
>
>
>
> Sharon
>
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