[Blindmath] Homework for College Class

Amanda Lacy lacy925 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 25 17:09:26 UTC 2012


Ben,

Thanks. I've never thought of that. I'm used to reading Nemeth where 
parentheses get used over and over with a few exceptions. I might consider 
using brackets for open and close fraction signs.

Amanda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Humphreys" <brh at opticinspiration.org>
To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Homework for College Class


> Amanda,
>
> I've been loath to use parenthesis because of the comprehension complexity 
> when more than a few end up in a single equation.
>
> Towards the end of my last math class though, brackets [] were 
> "reintroduced" to me  to differentiate between parenthesis for simplicity.
>
> You could even use {} as well.
>
> In other words,
>
> [1/(2/3)[^2
>
> is easier to understand than
>
> (1/(2/3)^2
>
> Ben
>
> At 10:06 AM 1/24/2012, you wrote:
>>Ben,
>>
>>Do sighted professors understand 1 // 2/3 without explanation? I use 
>>1/(2/3) to make sure anyone can know what I meant.
>>
>>Amanda
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Humphreys" 
>><brh at opticinspiration.org>
>>To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" 
>><blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:59 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Homework for College Class
>>
>>
>>>While I certainly can't quarrel with the presentation of Latex, I did 
>>>just finish Calculus 1 and I can vouch that there is plenty to learn and 
>>>challenges to overcome without the added complexity and difficulty of 
>>>reading Latex compared to a shorthand, which I've discussed before.
>>>
>>>For example, consider a fraction divided by another fraction such as 1 
>>>divided by 2/3
>>>
>>>In Latex, we have:
>>>
>>>\frac{ 1 }{ \frac{ 2}{3} }
>>>
>>>Now, consider the shorthand that I used in my own homework
>>>
>>>1 // 2/3
>>>
>>>So the double slash is the "big" division line" if you will.
>>>
>>>Now, I'm aware of all the shortcomings of non-standards based solutions, 
>>>but as a practical matter, you're working hundreds of prolems, some of 
>>>them difficult enough in math, without the added complexity, syntax, and 
>>>additional brainpower to translate Latek back into what your classmates 
>>>are seeing natively.
>>>
>>>Admittedly, I'm dealing with blindness as an adult without the benefit of 
>>>mastery of braille or Nemeth at a young age, so I rely on a screen reader 
>>>and others mileage may very.
>>>
>>>Ben
>>>
>>>At 03:55 AM 1/24/2012, you wrote:
>>>>Lanie,
>>>>LateX is the standard for producing mathematical documents on many 
>>>>universities. I highly recommend you learn it. Unlike some self invented 
>>>>shorthand lateX allows you to express any mathematical expression 
>>>>unambiguously. LateX will also benefit you when you are writing a thesis 
>>>>because you'll be able to get a perfect layout just by coding correctly 
>>>>rather than having to check it on the screen.
>>>>
>>>>You can write lateX in any text editor, and you can convert it into PDF 
>>>>using the pdflatex command line program which comes with mictex.
>>>>I hear TeXnic center is accessible and could make your job easier.
>>>>There are many lateX tutorials which can get you started.
>>>>Tim
>>>>On 1/24/2012 5:51 AM, Lanie wrote:
>>>>>I only tried ones specificly for math such as LaTeX and Scientific 
>>>>>Notebook, but that's a good idea to use shorthand in a regular 
>>>>>workprocessor.
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Alex Hall <mehgcap at gmail.com
>>>>>To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics 
>>>>><blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Date sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:45:09 -0500
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Homework for College Class
>>>>>
>>>>>What programs have you tried for wordprocessing? I can't think of any 
>>>>>that nvda won't work with.  Even Notepad should do the trick, even if 
>>>>>you have to use a shorthand for some symbols, such as sr(x) for square 
>>>>>root of x.
>>>>>
>>>>>Have a great day,
>>>>>Alex (msg sent from my iPod)
>>>>>mehgcap at gmail.com; //facebook.com/mehgcap
>>>>>
>>>>>On Jan 23, 2012, at 23:25, Lanie <readtobuild at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.  I was wondering if anyone can help with this.  I'm taking a 
>>>>>calculus class in college, where I've just done "so homework and now 
>>>>>have it in Braille.  I'm not beure how to transcribe it into a format 
>>>>>my professor can read though.  Does anyone have any suggestions.  So 
>>>>>far, I thought of using a computer program where I could type it out 
>>>>>and email it to him, but I haven't found one that's accessible with 
>>>>>NVDA, the screen reader I use.  My second option would be reading it 
>>>>>all out loud on to a digital recorder and emailing it to him, but 
>>>>>that's just really tedious.  Also, I've thought about getting a reader 
>>>>>and scribe, but that will make me tied down to someone, and with my 
>>>>>schedule, that won't really work.  I would really appreciate any help 
>>>>>ASAP.  Thanks.
>>>>>
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