[Blindmath] Goodwill Boycott

Birkir R. Gunnarsson birkir.gunnarsson at gmail.com
Tue Jun 12 21:32:50 UTC 2012 

Hey Justin

For my part, you are forgiven. You're a smart kid with ambition, and
we, as blind people everywhere, need people like you.
I think the sub minimum wage does not apply to people with academic
background and skill to work in a competitive and demanding positions
(I have had a few of those, and the wages have always been good, I
lost my very well-paid and important financial analyst position due to
cancer and having to move to Europe in 2006, otherwise I'd still be
employed in a relatively good position I believe, though the banking
crisis has made it very difficult to get a replacement job in that
sector).
I feel strongly that this has more to do with low wage "low skill" if
you will, jobs.
Whereas it is certainly important, at least to a point, I feel that
too often interest groups for disabled people are too busy asking for
donations and increased social wellfare rather than empowering their
members to live to their potential and work hard.
That being said, I do not know the NfB stance, oand whether this
attitude applies to that organization, so I am not making that claim.
I am also not going to comment further, as this is off-topic for this list.
I understand the oversight, since it is an NFB hosted list, fine.
I definitely provide you support for the fight, which is noble and
important I am sure, let's just discuss it elsewhere, if you please.
Cheers
-B

On 6/12/12, Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu> wrote:
> To all offended parties:
>
> I apologize for assuming that a list on nfbnet.org was an NFB list.  I will
> not perpetuate the efforts of the National Federation of the Blind to
> achieve fair wages for workers with disabilities on this list any longer.
>
> I thought it was relevant to the list since I am hoping to work in a
> mathematically-related field (since I just earned my BA in Mathematics in
> May), am blind, and could be offered subminimum wage employment.  On second
> thought, I can see that employment opportunities are not relevant to all of
> us.  I suppose I was being egotistical in assuming that a significant
> population of others on the list would be like me in that sense.
>
> I do sincerely value the benefit that I have received from my participation
> on this list and regret that I have offended so many.
>
> Yours in Federationism,
>
> Justin Salisbury
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Class of 2012
> B.A. in Mathematics
> East Carolina University
> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>
> “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
> the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.”    —MARGARET MEAD
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>    1. Boycott Goodwill on Facebook! (Justin Salisbury)
>    2. Re: Boycott Goodwill on Facebook! (Sina Bahram)
>    3. Re: Boycott Goodwill on Facebook! (Birkir R. Gunnarsson)
>    4. Re: Boycott Goodwill on Facebook! (Dasha Radford)
>    5. Re: Boycott Goodwill on Facebook! (Steve Jacobson)
>    6. Re: Boycott Goodwill on Facebook! (Susan Mooney)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:56:44 +0000
> From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>
> To: "nfb-science at nfbnet.org" <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>,
>         "blindmath at nfbnet.org"  <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Blindmath] Boycott Goodwill on Facebook!
> Message-ID:
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> Fellow Federationists:
>
> I have created a Facebook event for our boycott of Goodwill Industries
> International, Inc.  It can be found at the following link:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/events/453015078044368/
>
> Please join the boycott and encourage everyone you know to do the same!
>
> Yours in Federationism,
>
> Justin Salisbury
> President
> North Carolina Association of Blind Students
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Class of 2012
> B.A. in Mathematics
> East Carolina University
> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>
> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET MEAD
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:10:49 -0400
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram at nc.rr.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>         <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Boycott Goodwill on Facebook!
> Message-ID: <000501cd482f$d37d27f0$7a7777d0$@nc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> is this really on topic for a mathematics related list?
>
> Note: I'm hoping the answer, or at least my perception of it, is rather
> obvious.
>
> Thanks
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Justin Salisbury
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 7:57 PM
> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org; blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] Boycott Goodwill on Facebook!
>
> Fellow Federationists:
>
> I have created a Facebook event for our boycott of Goodwill Industries
> International, Inc.  It can be found at the following link:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/events/453015078044368/
>
> Please join the boycott and encourage everyone you know to do the same!
>
> Yours in Federationism,
>
> Justin Salisbury
> President
> North Carolina Association of Blind Students
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Class of 2012
> B.A. in Mathematics
> East Carolina University
> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
> the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."
> -MARGARET MEAD
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:13:14 +0000
> From: "Birkir R. Gunnarsson" <birkir.gunnarsson at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>         <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Boycott Goodwill on Facebook!
> Message-ID:
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> Justin
>
>
> I know yu are a smart kid, and you have contributed a lot to math and
> math discussion through the years.
> If it wasn't for that, I would urge the list moderator to ban you
> instantly.
> This kind of message does not belong on this list, it seems even
> insulting to some numbers of this list. Ihave nothing to do with this,
> and it feels like spam of the very worst kind in the context of the
> Blindmath mailinglist, a list that discusses math, free from national
> or political affilliations, something that is extremely important to
> me.
>
> Please keep math and politics separate in future and do not post these
> types of messags to this list again, unless you can justify the
> message with some relevance to math or stem accessibility.
> Thanks
> -B
>
> On 6/11/12, Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu> wrote:
>> Fellow Federationists:
>>
>> I have created a Facebook event for our boycott of Goodwill Industries
>> International, Inc.  It can be found at the following link:
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/events/453015078044368/
>>
>> Please join the boycott and encourage everyone you know to do the same!
>>
>> Yours in Federationism,
>>
>> Justin Salisbury
>> President
>> North Carolina Association of Blind Students
>>
>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> Class of 2012
>> B.A. in Mathematics
>> East Carolina University
>> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>>
>> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
>> change
>> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET MEAD
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:30:39 -0400
> From: Dasha Radford <dasha95 at nc.rr.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>         <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Boycott Goodwill on Facebook!
> Message-ID: <28D83274-90CE-4FAF-8AF8-C346548FBB35 at nc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
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> Back off people! It may have been off topic but there's no reason to get you
> for up about it. I shall say no more on the subject.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:13 PM, "Birkir R. Gunnarsson"
> <birkir.gunnarsson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>> I know yu are a smart kid, and you have contributed a lot to math and
>> math discussion through the years.
>> If it wasn't for that, I would urge the list moderator to ban you
>> instantly.
>> This kind of message does not belong on this list, it seems even
>> insulting to some numbers of this list. Ihave nothing to do with this,
>> and it feels like spam of the very worst kind in the context of the
>> Blindmath mailinglist, a list that discusses math, free from national
>> or political affilliations, something that is extremely important to
>> me.
>>
>> Please keep math and politics separate in future and do not post these
>> types of messags to this list again, unless you can justify the
>> message with some relevance to math or stem accessibility.
>> Thanks
>> -B
>>
>> On 6/11/12, Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu> wrote:
>>> Fellow Federationists:
>>>
>>> I have created a Facebook event for our boycott of Goodwill Industries
>>> International, Inc.  It can be found at the following link:
>>>
>>> http://www.facebook.com/events/453015078044368/
>>>
>>> Please join the boycott and encourage everyone you know to do the same!
>>>
>>> Yours in Federationism,
>>>
>>> Justin Salisbury
>>> President
>>> North Carolina Association of Blind Students
>>>
>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>> Class of 2012
>>> B.A. in Mathematics
>>> East Carolina University
>>> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>>>
>>> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
>>> change
>>> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET MEAD
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:31:44 -0500
> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
>         <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Boycott Goodwill on Facebook!
> Message-ID: <auto-000007640669 at mailback4.g2host.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Birkir,
>
> We do try to keep political messages to a minimum on this and some other
> NFBNET lists.  As you know, there are occasional announcements sent
> through all lists, so the line is blurred sometimes for people who are on
> other lists and who see announcements on multiple lists.
>
> Justin, unlike many of our other lists on NFBNET, this list does not
> represent a NFB division as is also true for some of the arts lists.
> Therefore, please
> leave it to
> Dave Andrews to decide when an announcement may be sent to this list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson,
> List Moderator
>
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:13:14 +0000, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
>
>>Justin
>
>
>>I know yu are a smart kid, and you have contributed a lot to math and
>>math discussion through the years.
>>If it wasn't for that, I would urge the list moderator to ban you
>> instantly.
>>This kind of message does not belong on this list, it seems even
>>insulting to some numbers of this list. Ihave nothing to do with this,
>>and it feels like spam of the very worst kind in the context of the
>>Blindmath mailinglist, a list that discusses math, free from national
>>or political affilliations, something that is extremely important to
>>me.
>
>>Please keep math and politics separate in future and do not post these
>>types of messags to this list again, unless you can justify the
>>message with some relevance to math or stem accessibility.
>>Thanks
>>-B
>
>>On 6/11/12, Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu> wrote:
>>> Fellow Federationists:
>>>
>>> I have created a Facebook event for our boycott of Goodwill Industries
>>> International, Inc.  It can be found at the following link:
>>>
>>> http://www.facebook.com/events/453015078044368/
>>>
>>> Please join the boycott and encourage everyone you know to do the same!
>>>
>>> Yours in Federationism,
>>>
>>> Justin Salisbury
>>> President
>>> North Carolina Association of Blind Students
>>>
>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>> Class of 2012
>>> B.A. in Mathematics
>>> East Carolina University
>>> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>>>
>>> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
>>> change
>>> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET MEAD
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:46:23 -0400
> From: Susan Mooney <susanannemooney at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>         <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Boycott Goodwill on Facebook!
> Message-ID:
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> Thank you, Dasha Radford.  I figure it was sent out to all the NFB lists.
> Justin's a good guy.  Cut him some slack.
>
> SM
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Dasha Radford <dasha95 at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Back off people! It may have been off topic but there's no reason to get
>> you for up about it. I shall say no more on the subject.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:13 PM, "Birkir R. Gunnarsson" <
>> birkir.gunnarsson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Justin
>> >
>> >
>> > I know yu are a smart kid, and you have contributed a lot to math and
>> > math discussion through the years.
>> > If it wasn't for that, I would urge the list moderator to ban you
>> instantly.
>> > This kind of message does not belong on this list, it seems even
>> > insulting to some numbers of this list. Ihave nothing to do with this,
>> > and it feels like spam of the very worst kind in the context of the
>> > Blindmath mailinglist, a list that discusses math, free from national
>> > or political affilliations, something that is extremely important to
>> > me.
>> >
>> > Please keep math and politics separate in future and do not post these
>> > types of messags to this list again, unless you can justify the
>> > message with some relevance to math or stem accessibility.
>> > Thanks
>> > -B
>> >
>> > On 6/11/12, Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu> wrote:
>> >> Fellow Federationists:
>> >>
>> >> I have created a Facebook event for our boycott of Goodwill Industries
>> >> International, Inc.  It can be found at the following link:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.facebook.com/events/453015078044368/
>> >>
>> >> Please join the boycott and encourage everyone you know to do the
>> >> same!
>> >>
>> >> Yours in Federationism,
>> >>
>> >> Justin Salisbury
>> >> President
>> >> North Carolina Association of Blind Students
>> >>
>> >> Justin M. Salisbury
>> >> Class of 2012
>> >> B.A. in Mathematics
>> >> East Carolina University
>> >> president at alumni.ecu.edu
>> >>
>> >> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
>> change
>> >> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET
>> >> MEAD
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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