[Blindmath] How to have a screen reader read back geometry and graphs?

Neil Soiffer NeilS at dessci.com
Mon Jan 14 22:10:21 UTC 2013


Just a small clarification: you can use MathType+Word and export that to a
web page.  Then JAWS+IE+MathPlayer will read that.  However, at the moment,
you need to export the word doc to a web page.  That will change this
year.  Stay tuned...

Neil Soiffer
Senior Scientist
Design Science, Inc.
www.dessci.com
~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor ~




On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Bente J. Casile <bjcasile at waketech.edu>wrote:

> Mary,
>
> Math Type or Scientific Notebook would work for you.  If you use Math Type
> it will read with JAWS and if you are putting his work in Braille
> Scientific Notebook works well.  You are correct that screen readers do not
> read graphics and the reason Math Type and Scientific Notebook are used is
> so the math is read correctly.  For example 3x+2 is very different from
> 3(x+2).  These programs make sure the math is read and put into braille
> correctly.  Worksheets are tough.  If there is any way the school could get
> Math Type then the teacher could use them to create the work and it would
> be accessible for your 10th grader.  As far as reading graphs goes,  if
> your son is not provided a tactile graphic then he would require an
> alternative text description of the graphic.  There is also something
> called sensational blackboard.  It allows the teacher to draw a quick graph
> on the spot for your son.  It can be used with paper and pencil.  If you
> google it I think you will find that it is $29.95 so not bad considering
> what VI products go for these days. I hope this helps.
>
> Bente J. Casile
> Math Learning Specialist
> Wake Tech Community College
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Woodyard
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:35 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] How to have a screen reader read back geometry and
> graphs?
>
>
> I am the parent of a Visually impaired 10th grader and I am curious as to
> how I could enable a screen reader to read the typed of information in this
> Math Worksheet that my son used in class.
>
> I have been reading this website all summer and from what I understand -
> screen readers in general don't read graphics so just using a screen reader
> like Zoom Text or JAWS would not work here.
>
> I think I would need to use LaTex or MathType to convert these graphics
> into a format that the screen reader could then read.  Is this correct?
>  Then would I need to use Infinity Reader or could Zoom Text or JAWS read
> it?
>
> I am asking these questions because some teachers in my son's school are
> questioning why he needs a human reader to clarify some of the Math
> problems for him.  He has ROP, Glaucoma and is aphakik - he has partial
> vision in one eye only - but can use Large Print quite well for a lot of
> things.  Algebra and Geometry he needs someone reading some things back to
> him so he does not confuse the letters and symbols.
>
> What is the best way to accomplish having a screen reader read back the
> geometry and graphs to him instead of a human reader?
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> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Blindmath] Integrating SVG with DAISY and MathML
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> Hi all,
>
> Is there a tool or technique that allows me to integrate accessible SVG
> with a DAISY book that consists of MathML and regular DAISY text?
>
> Note:
> If there is a better list for me asking this question, please let me know.
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> Pranav
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> From: Kiran <Kiran at persiontechnologies.com>
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> Hi pranav,
>
> I guess there is not any direct way to do so, but there certainly is a
> workaround, we can not import an accessible svg file in to a word processor
> that may help us in converting it to daisy but we may put a link to the svg
> file and launch the svg file in a browser that shall be then accessed via
> description.
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> Shall have a word with you on a call shortly.
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>
>
> Kiran S Deshpande
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> On 14-Jan-2013, at 7:09 PM, "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is there a tool or technique that allows me to integrate accessible
> > SVG with a DAISY book that consists of MathML and regular DAISY text?
> >
> > Note:
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> > Pranav
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