[Blindmath] MiniTab

[Justin Young]

Yes that would definitely be interesting to find out.  I've never used
this software before now and don't know personally how older versions
were accessibility wise, but from what I've read online they were
better to use with screen readers than the current versions.  Perhaps
you have to activate the accessibility portion?  If you do, I don't
have a clue how that's done.  Just throwing an idea out there.

On 6/3/13, Michael Whapples <mwhapples at aim.com> wrote:
> It certainly was inaccessible when I was using it last year and people
> said it was accessible to an extent in version 12, so it seems like they
> did break accessibility.
>
> If they are claiming it is accessible then it might be worth contacting
> them to find out how to make it accessible.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 03/06/2013 14:20, Paul Chapin wrote:
>> Am I to understand from this that they managed to take an accessible
>> product and make it inaccessible?  They still claim to be 508 compliant
>> but they don't appear to make the VPAT available on the web.
>>
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>> From: Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com<mailto:jty727 at gmail.com>>
>> Reply-To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>> Date: Sunday, June 2, 2013 3:54 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] MiniTab
>>
>> Is there anywhere to find MiniTab version 12?
>>
>> On 6/2/13, Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com<mailto:jty727 at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> I think we might talk about that at some point.  Thanks for your help!:)
>>
>> On 6/2/13, Michael Whapples <mwhapples at aim.com<mailto:mwhapples at aim.com>>
>> wrote:
>> The plugin I referred to is a plugin for the statistics package called R
>> http://www.r-project.org and was to produce the graphs for statistical
>> process control (SPC). Other than minitab can do SPC and so can the
>> plugin, there is no relationship between the two (IE. the one does not
>> provide an interface for the other, they are purely alternative software
>> for doing SPC).
>>
>> If SPC is a topic you will be covering then I can look back at my work
>> to remind myself what the R plugin is called and where it can be
>> obtained from.
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>> On 02/06/2013 00:23, Justin Young wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback.  Where/how do you get this "plug-in"?  Thanks
>> so
>> much!
>>
>> On 6/1/13, Michael Whapples <mwhapples at aim.com<mailto:mwhapples at aim.com>>
>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> It was about a year ago, or 18 months, I was on a course where minitab
>> was used as part of the course. You are correct about the accessibility
>> (I think it was version 12 which was the last accessible version).
>> However my university was unable to get hold of version 12, however
>> they
>> were agreeable for me to use other software for the tasks. May be
>> something similar could be done in your case.
>>
>> You probably can find other software for the tasks you would need to
>> undertake. What the alternative software is might depend a bit on what
>> precisely needs to be done. In my case I ended up using R and a plugin,
>> however R may not be the best option for everything. Sometimes for
>> simpler things even excel can be enough.
>>
>>     From what I have heard, minitab 12 was usable with a screen reader
>> but
>> I have not had any practical experience and only know what others have
>> told me.
>>
>> I feel this has not been too specific, but I would imagine if you went
>> down the route of using other tools then there would be people who
>> would
>> be willing to help you learn how to use it for the tasks you need to
>> perform. Feel free to ask questions on what accessible tools may be
>> good
>> for certain tasks.
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>> On 01/06/2013 20:50, Justin Young wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> My name is Justin Young and I'm a blind student currently taking an
>> intro stats course which is a prerequesit for a master's program that
>> I'll be starting in the Fall.  I just subscribed officially to this
>> list today, but before I did I tried sending a message so not sure if
>> that message will be sent as well.  If it is, I apologize for the
>> double posting.  My course is using a program called MiniTab 16 and
>> I've never used it before.  I tried playing with the program that I
>> installed on my computer and its not really fun to play with, haha!  I
>> came across a thread via google from this list on this subject and
>> wanted to ask a few questions.  I believe the last version accessible
>> to screen readers was version 12 or 13?  How many on this list have
>> heard of it or have used this program?  Any suggestions, advice,
>> comments you have are greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Justin Young
>>
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