[Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

Andy B. sonfire11 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 22 19:37:34 UTC 2013


If he can't represent 3d objects on a graph, will his instructor at least
give him full credit if he can solve the equasions? Another alternative is
to look at Excel 2013. It supports up to 300 different graph types
(including 3d graphs). JAWS supports up to 250 of them the last I checked.


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From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Woodyard
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:01 AM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

FYI - I sent this same question to APH and this is the response I got.  

"We do not have any 3-D graph paper as shown in your example at APH, nor am
I aware that it is available anywhere else. Technically speaking, 3-D
graphing may be OK for low vision students but not appropriate for braille
readers because depth information is not possible to be represented in
tactile graphics."

I am going to just hope for the best and be glad it's a short unit!

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:58:41 -0500
From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
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Subject: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
	giids
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My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2 weeks) in
about a week.  He spent some time searching online with his Math tutor for
3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper that they found that worked
the best for his vision from what they were able to find in free 3d graph
paper options.  Does anyone know of a more accessible free (or low cost)
option?  

Thanks,

Mary Woodyard
Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>
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Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on
www.access2science.com


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From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Godfrey,
Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training

Hi Paul,

I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the exact link
for you but look for the Summery University held in conjunction with the
ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards. I'm not sure if the 2013
ones are uploaded yet but the files mentioned should all be there for
reference purposes.
J



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Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
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Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training

Hi,

I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or anything
else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.

Paul Chapin
Academic Technology Specialist
Amherst College
X2144

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
From: Andrew Stacey <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>
To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
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Dear all,

I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance browser and
e-reader support for MathML.  The project description itself is very
detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of accessibility in the
motivation section.

The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the people
who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology over the last
few years, so is best placed to know what the issues are and what the next
stage in development should be.  So if anyone is going to improved matters,
he's the best choice.

He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time concentrating on
MathML development and the website is on a crowd-funding site where people
can contribute.  The actual amount that he is trying to raise is not
actually all that much, particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that
could follow from this.

I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and that some
of you will actually do so.

The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/

Andrew Stacey



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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:05:19 +0000
From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
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I am not familiar with three d graph paper, unless you are referring to the
paper from APH? I find my student fare best with the graph board from aph

Maureen Lewicki
Teacher of the Visually Impaired
Bethlehem Central Schools
700 Delaware Avenue
Delmar, NY 12054
http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/


On Nov 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
<marywoodyard at comcast.net<mailto:marywoodyard at comcast.net>> wrote:

My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2 weeks) in
about a week.  He spent some time searching online with his Math tutor for
3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper that they found that worked
the best for his vision from what they were able to find in free 3d graph
paper options.  Does anyone know of a more accessible free (or low cost)
option?

Thanks,

Mary Woodyard
Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu<mailto:gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>>
To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
   <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
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Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on
www.access2science.com<http://www.access2science.com>


-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Godfrey,
Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training

Hi Paul,

I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the exact link
for you but look for the Summery University held in conjunction with the
ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards. I'm not sure if the 2013
ones are uploaded yet but the files mentioned should all be there for
reference purposes.
J



-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Chapin
Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training

Hi,

I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or anything
else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.

Paul Chapin
Academic Technology Specialist
Amherst College
X2144

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Dear all,

I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance browser and
e-reader support for MathML.  The project description itself is very
detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of accessibility in the
motivation section.

The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the people
who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology over the last
few years, so is best placed to know what the issues are and what the next
stage in development should be.  So if anyone is going to improved matters,
he's the best choice.

He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time concentrating on
MathML development and the website is on a crowd-funding site where people
can contribute.  The actual amount that he is trying to raise is not
actually all that much, particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that
could follow from this.

I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and that some
of you will actually do so.

The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/

Andrew Stacey



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