[Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

sabra1023 sabra1023 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 22 21:36:51 UTC 2013 

 For geometry and algebra, you don't need a 3-D printer. You can either order some of the shapes, have someone make them out of cardboard, or your school my arty have them.

> On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Andy B." <sonfire11 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you think it would help in a geometry section of a college algebra class?
> I wish I could see something like this that was made with a 3d printer. Any
> ideas on how to get my hands on some shapes?
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda
> Lacy
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:50 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
> 
> Pretty well, actually. I'm not quite finished with calculus III, but the
> shapes were very useful for understanding concepts like traces. They were
> very well done - you could actually feel the traces. Maybe the student could
> get some of these made?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy B." <sonfire11 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'" 
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
> 
> 
>> How well did this turn out?
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Amanda Lacy
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:36 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
>> 
>> I have some hypercool 3D calculus shapes representing functions with 
>> two independent variables which were produced on a 3D Printer.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "sabra1023" <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
>> 
>> 
>>> I think you mean that the information can't adequately be represented 
>>> into dimensional form. It can be represented tactilely as long as it's 
>>> in three dimensions. I don't know if this information can be put on a 
>>> 3-D coordinate grid, or how helpful it would be, if I were doing it, I 
>>> would want a 3-D shape of the function, with a table of important
>> coordinates.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
>>>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> FYI - I sent this same question to APH and this is the response I got.
>>>> 
>>>> "We do not have any 3-D graph paper as shown in your example at APH, 
>>>> nor am I aware that it is available anywhere else. Technically 
>>>> speaking, 3-D graphing may be OK for low vision students but not 
>>>> appropriate for braille readers because depth information is not 
>>>> possible to be represented in tactile graphics."
>>>> 
>>>> I am going to just hope for the best and be glad it's a short unit!
>>>> 
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>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>  1. suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper giids (Mary Woodyard)
>>>>  2. Re: suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper giids
>>>>     (Lewicki, Maureen)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:58:41 -0500
>>>> From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
>>>>   giids
>>>> Message-ID: <00ae01cee771$ce493cf0$6adbb6d0$@comcast.net>
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>>>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
>>>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with 
>>>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper 
>>>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they 
>>>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know 
>>>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Woodyard
>>>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>>  1. Re: Latex training (John Gardner)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
>>>> From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>
>>>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>> Message-ID: <00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec05b0$@orst.edu>
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>>>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on 
>>>> www.access2science.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Godfrey, Jonathan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the 
>>>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in 
>>>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards.
>>>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files 
>>>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
>>>> J
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Paul Chapin
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or 
>>>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul Chapin
>>>> Academic Technology Specialist
>>>> Amherst College
>>>> X2144
>>>> 
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
>>>> From: Andrew Stacey <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>
>>>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
>>>> Message-ID: <20131121080000.GA590 at dhcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance 
>>>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description 
>>>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of 
>>>> accessibility in the motivation section.
>>>> 
>>>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the 
>>>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology 
>>>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues 
>>>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone 
>>>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
>>>> 
>>>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time 
>>>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a 
>>>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount 
>>>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much, 
>>>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
> this.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and 
>>>> that some of you will actually do so.
>>>> 
>>>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew Stacey
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:05:19 +0000
>>>> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
>>>>   giids
>>>> Message-ID: <618C267D-F570-40CA-8CEC-B0F62E993EA6 at bcsd.neric.org>
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>>>> I am not familiar with three d graph paper, unless you are referring 
>>>> to the paper from APH? I find my student fare best with the graph 
>>>> board from aph
>>>> 
>>>> Maureen Lewicki
>>>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>>>> Bethlehem Central Schools
>>>> 700 Delaware Avenue
>>>> Delmar, NY 12054
>>>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
>>>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net<mailto:marywoodyard at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
>>>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with 
>>>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper 
>>>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they 
>>>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know 
>>>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Woodyard
>>>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> blindmath-request at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath-request at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:00 AM
>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Blindmath Digest, Vol 88, Issue 12
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>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific 
>>>> than
>>>> "Re: Contents of Blindmath digest..."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Re: Latex training (John Gardner)  2. A project to advance 
>>>> MathML support in browsers (Andrew Stacey)
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
>>>> From: "John Gardner"
>>>> <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu<mailto:gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>>
>>>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>>>  <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec05b0$@orst.edu<mailto:00cd01cee671$334eac
>>>> 9
>>>> 0$99ec0
>>>> 5b0$@orst.edu>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>>> 
>>>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on 
>>>> www.access2science.com<http://www.access2science.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Godfrey, Jonathan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the 
>>>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in 
>>>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards.
>>>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files 
>>>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
>>>> J
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Paul Chapin
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or 
>>>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul Chapin
>>>> Academic Technology Specialist
>>>> Amherst College
>>>> X2144
>>>> 
>>>> Amherst College IT staff will never ask for your password, including 
>>>> by email. Any email asking for any password or username is almost 
>>>> certainly bogus. Never click on a link in an email to a site that 
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
>>>> From: Andrew Stacey
>>>> <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no<mailto:andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>>
>>>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <20131121080000.GA590 at dhcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no<mailto:20131121080000.
>>>> GA590 at d
>>>> hcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance 
>>>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description 
>>>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of 
>>>> accessibility in the motivation section.
>>>> 
>>>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the 
>>>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology 
>>>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues 
>>>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone 
>>>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
>>>> 
>>>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time 
>>>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a 
>>>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount 
>>>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much, 
>>>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
> this.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and 
>>>> that some of you will actually do so.
>>>> 
>>>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew Stacey
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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