[Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

Andy B. sonfire11 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 22 19:38:12 UTC 2013 

How well did this turn out?


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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

I have some hypercool 3D calculus shapes representing functions with two
independent variables which were produced on a 3D Printer.
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>I think you mean that the information can't adequately be represented 
>into dimensional form. It can be represented tactilely as long as it's 
>in three dimensions. I don't know if this information can be put on a 
>3-D coordinate grid, or how helpful it would be, if I were doing it, I 
>would want a 3-D shape of the function, with a table of important
coordinates.
>
>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Mary Woodyard" 
>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> FYI - I sent this same question to APH and this is the response I got.
>>
>> "We do not have any 3-D graph paper as shown in your example at APH, 
>> nor am I aware that it is available anywhere else. Technically 
>> speaking, 3-D graphing may be OK for low vision students but not 
>> appropriate for braille readers because depth information is not 
>> possible to be represented in tactile graphics."
>>
>> I am going to just hope for the best and be glad it's a short unit!
>>
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>>   1. suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper giids (Mary Woodyard)
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>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:58:41 -0500
>> From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
>> To: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
>>    giids
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>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2 
>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with his 
>> Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper that 
>> they found that worked the best for his vision from what they were 
>> able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know of a 
>> more accessible free (or low cost) option?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mary Woodyard
>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>>
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>> From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>
>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>    <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>> Message-ID: <00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec05b0$@orst.edu>
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>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on 
>> www.access2science.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Godfrey, Jonathan
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the 
>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in 
>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards. 
>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files 
>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Chapin
>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or 
>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
>>
>> Paul Chapin
>> Academic Technology Specialist
>> Amherst College
>> X2144
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
>> From: Andrew Stacey <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>
>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
>> Message-ID: <20131121080000.GA590 at dhcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>
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>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance 
>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description 
>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of 
>> accessibility in the motivation section.
>>
>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the 
>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology 
>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues 
>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone 
>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
>>
>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time concentrating 
>> on MathML development and the website is on a crowd-funding site 
>> where people can contribute.  The actual amount that he is trying to 
>> raise is not actually all that much, particularly given the 
>> wide-ranging benefits that could follow from this.
>>
>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and 
>> that some of you will actually do so.
>>
>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>>
>> Andrew Stacey
>>
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:05:19 +0000
>> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>    <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
>>    giids
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>> I am not familiar with three d graph paper, unless you are referring 
>> to the paper from APH? I find my student fare best with the graph 
>> board from aph
>>
>> Maureen Lewicki
>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>> Bethlehem Central Schools
>> 700 Delaware Avenue
>> Delmar, NY 12054
>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
>>
>>
>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net<mailto:marywoodyard at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2 
>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with his 
>> Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper that 
>> they found that worked the best for his vision from what they were 
>> able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know of a 
>> more accessible free (or low cost) option?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mary Woodyard
>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>>
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>> blindmath-request at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath-request at nfbnet.org>
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>> "Re: Contents of Blindmath digest..."
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>  1. Re: Latex training (John Gardner)  2. A project to advance MathML 
>> support in browsers (Andrew Stacey)
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
>> From: "John Gardner" 
>> <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu<mailto:gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>>
>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>> Message-ID:
>> <00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec05b0$@orst.edu<mailto:00cd01cee671$334eac9
>> 0$99ec0
>> 5b0$@orst.edu>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on 
>> www.access2science.com<http://www.access2science.com>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Godfrey, Jonathan
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the 
>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in 
>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards. 
>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files 
>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Chapin
>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or 
>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
>>
>> Paul Chapin
>> Academic Technology Specialist
>> Amherst College
>> X2144
>>
>> Amherst College IT staff will never ask for your password, including 
>> by email. Any email asking for any password or username is almost 
>> certainly bogus. Never click on a link in an email to a site that 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
>> From: Andrew Stacey
>> <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no<mailto:andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>>
>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
>> Message-ID:
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>> GA590 at d
>> hcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance 
>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description 
>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of 
>> accessibility in the motivation section.
>>
>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the 
>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology 
>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues 
>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone 
>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
>>
>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time concentrating 
>> on MathML development and the website is on a crowd-funding site 
>> where people can contribute.  The actual amount that he is trying to 
>> raise is not actually all that much, particularly given the 
>> wide-ranging benefits that could follow from this.
>>
>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and 
>> that some of you will actually do so.
>>
>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>>
>> Andrew Stacey
>>
>>
>>
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