[Blindmath] mathtype

Tue Oct 1 20:55:33 UTC 2013

Then you need to do some other things:
Option 1: Before handing the file to the student, toggle all equation 
objects to LaTeX notation (select all and then press alt+backslash). 
Save the file when all equations are in LaTeX form and they should be 
able to read it (providing they know LaTeX notation). The student could 
write in LaTeX equations and the teacher can get the equations in normal 
print form by toggling those equations back to MathType.
Option 2: Using something like tiger software suite from ViewPlus create 
a Braille translation of the document and give the student the Braille 
file. This option would mean the student need not know LaTeX notation, 
but does mean that it would require a transcriber to produce a print 
copy if the student were to produce any equations.

Michael Whapples
On 01/10/2013 21:47, Lewicki, Maureen wrote:
> Thanks so much for your answer, even if I don't understand it. But I realized when I got the response, that I was writing to the wrong list.  I meant to ask if they can read math type problems on an apex. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>   Teacher of Visually Impaired
> Bethlehem Central School
> 332 Kenwood AvenueDelmar, NY 12054
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> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."Kenneth Jernigan
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:05 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] mathtype
>
> Short answer yes.
>
> I will state though there are a few ways to do this.
> 1. The student has MathType installed, selects the equation object in the document and presses alt+backslash to toggle the equation to the LaTeX notation and reads that. They can toggle it back by selecting the appropriate LaTeX notation and pressing alt+backslash again. One can toggle all equations by selecting all in word, but be aware that if some are in LaTeX notation and some are MathType objects then each individual one will be flipped to the other, so one tends to try and keep all equations in the one format.
> 2. Using LEAN Math which John Gardner at ViewPlus is working on the student can use that notation to read the equations. It still requires MathType but is simpler to read and navigate than the LaTeX source MathType produces. Also it does not have the same problem of some equations being in one format and other equations in another.
> 3. Someone (can be either yourself, the student, etc, but whoever it is needs MathType) can publish the document to web page using the option in the MathType menu. When publishing to a web page ensure that it is doing to HTML with MathML optimised for Internet Explorer. Then the student can read it by using Internet Explorer and MathPlayer (when viewing in that way then the person reading does not need MathType). I believe design science have an article on the publishing to web page option in Mathtype.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 01/10/2013 18:23, Lewicki, Maureen wrote:
>> If I give my student a word doc with math type coded problems, will the student be able to read it? We are doing everything in hard copy at the moment.
>>
>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>>    Teacher of Visually Impaired
>> Bethlehem Central School
>> 332 Kenwood AvenueDelmar, NY 12054
>> http://bethlehemschools.org
>> (518) 439-7460
>> Fax (518) 475-0092
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If
>> a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
>> be reduced to a mere physical nuisance."Kenneth Jernigan
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mike Jolls
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:14 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] superscript on an APEX question
>>
>> I find it interesting that (apparently .. if I'm reading the replies correctly) that two different people use different methods to represent the same information.  Not that someone couldn't do that, but it would seem logical to have one accepted and approved set of Braille characters to represent a certain piece of information.  Then, if everyone saved to that syntax, you could have a universal standard program that could then translate and print it out for the benefit of a sighted teacher who didn't understand the Braille code.
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>> I'm all about standards ... it just makes life easier when you want to leverage information.
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>>> CC: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> From: sabra1023 at gmail.com
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:54:17 -0500
>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] superscript on an APEX question
>>>
>>> I don't use superscripts at all. They are confusing for me to read, and I show my work and math for my benefit as well as the teachers. I use parentheses if there are problems with clarification.
>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Wilson_KC <Wilson_KC at asdk12.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for that info, Daniel. We'll give it a try. kc
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Blindmath [blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Daniel
>>>> [danielgillen at rcn.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:07 PM
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] superscript on an APEX question
>>>>
>>>> Dear list,
>>>>
>>>> I am Daniel Gillen, a college student majoring in physics who is a
>>>> power user of the Apex. For the longest time, I've known that one
>>>> needs to be in 8-dot Computer Braille to take advantage of the
>>>> various plain-text and extended Unicode characters.
>>>> Hence, the caret (or beginning of superscript material) is most
>>>> efficiently written in 8-dot Computer Braille using dot 7
>>>> (backspace) together with dots 4-5. The way in 6-dot mode is to
>>>> first press space with U (U for uppercase), and then dots 4-5.
>>>> The option to switch to 8-dot mode is in Braille Options under the
>>>> Options Menu.
>>>> (Just as a side note: I find it convenient to use the tilde
>>>> character for the beginning of a square-root expression. With that,
>>>> I would end all superscript material or material under the radical
>>>> sign that has additional text on the base line with a double-quote
>>>> mark.) I hope this was helpful. As I've been a member of the
>>>> BlindMath listserv for quite some time, I could help anyone with
>>>> such questions as this.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Wilson_KC <Wilson_KC at asdk12.org
>>>> To: "blindmath at nfbnet.org" <blindmath at nfbnet.org Date sent: Thu, 26
>>>> Sep 2013 17:57:17 +0000
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] superscript on an APEX question
>>>>
>>>> My student is in a Text Document on her APEX doing math problems in
>>>> Nemeth. When she puts in dots 4,5 to produce an up arrow for a
>>>> superscript, she gets a tilde instead. Do you know what she's doing
>>>> wrong?
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