[Blindmath] Creating braille math for a refreshable braille display

Thu Apr 24 04:06:50 UTC 2014

Hello all:
The OP of this thread was Bridget, who is who I work with to get 
materials brailled, etc.
This topic came up because we have University Physics, 13th ed from 
Bookshare and there are a lot of places where it just shows [equation 
omitted] or a lot of the exercises are not written properly.
We were looking for a way to make this more accessible. She asked about 
LaTeX to see if we could somehow fill in the missing portions of the 
book, for example.

If anyone has any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. Either 
for how to make this process work, or of a version of this book that is 
already brailled, or is in BRF format and can be read.
Thanks,
On 4/23/2014 10:31 AM, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Hello,
> My memory of Duxbury and Scientific notebook is that scientific 
> notebook produces a flavour of LaTeX, it may even have added some of 
> its own command definitions.
>
> This is the thing with LaTeX, there normally is so many different ways 
> of doing things, one may define their own commands, etc, so it is very 
> unlikely that any software will support all LaTeX files.
>
> When I was doing my physics degree we had a whole list of LaTeX which 
> Duxbury understood and another list of LaTeX which did not agree with 
> duxbury.
>
> I know that even some of the LaTeX from scientific notebook did not 
> agree with duxbury, so normally the LaTeX was hand edited with the 
> typists paying attention to the above mentioned lists.
>
> So I think my comment is that it supports LaTeX in a limited form, not 
> necessarily restricted to what scientific notebook produced.
>
> Also it is worth noting that I am speaking of my experience of 
> obtaining UK Braille from Duxbury and it was about 2006 when I last 
> used it. Things may have improved and may be different for Nemeth output.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 23/04/2014 15:14, John Gardner wrote:
>> Hello, I am surprised by this exchange. My understanding is that Duxbury
>> translates files made by Scientific Notebook but not "real' Tex 
>> files.  I
>> know that there are Duxbury people on this list.  Please confirm if 
>> Duxbury
>> can translate regular LaTeX.  If so I agree that it would be awesome.
>>
>> In case Duxbury cannot translate LaTeX, there are several ways to get 
>> Latex
>> to conventional braille.  I confess I am not sure I know all of 
>> them.  One
>> that works quite well is the Tex2Word application available from
>> http://www.chikrii.com/products/tex2word/tex-to-word/ for about 
>> US$50.  Then
>> use the methods I described earlier for MS Word.
>>
>> John G
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Littlefield, Tyler
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:39 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Creating braille math for a refreshable braille
>> display
>>
>> hello:
>> What are the chances of getting a math book in TeX? This is an awesome
>> solution if it's viable, but I'm thinking it's not due to publishers.
>>
>> What sorts of solutions exist for reading brf on a pc?
>> Thanks,
>> On 4/22/2014 7:53 PM, Sarah Jevnikar wrote:
>>> If math is authored in TeX, it can be opened in Duxbury and saved as 
>>> a brf
>> file. Then it can be read on a Braille display.
>>> HTH,
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Blindmath [blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Lynn Reed
>> [iamlvr at yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: April 22, 2014 3:30 PM
>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Creating braille math for a refreshable 
>>> braille
>> display
>>> Sorry guys.....sent to wrong address.
>>>
>>> Peace and Love to all!
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Lynn Reed <iamlvr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This may be helpful for Ellie? Not sure.......
>>>>
>>>> Peace and Love to all!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "McNamee, Bridget" <mcnameeb at wit.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone have step by step instructions on how to author 
>>>>> accessible
>> math that can be used with a refreshable braille display?
>>>>>
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