[Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators

sabra1023 sabra1023 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 6 18:38:25 UTC 2014 

It wasn't out while I was in high school though. I'm sure that if it was, I could've seen one, but it wasn't. I was already in college for a year when it came. I don't want to get really excited about it and get one and then find out that it's actually really primitive just like the other when I tried.

> On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sabra,
> 
> I'm going to zero in on your statement: So if I could see one without
> buying it and I liked it, I would try to get one. That's what I was really
> trying to get Amber to do. While still in high school, she could get her
> hands on one, try it out, and find out if she liked it or not. Then if she
> did like it, she could figure out how to get one.
> 
> Susan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> sabra1023
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:43 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: marywoodyard at comcast.net; Blind Math list for those interested in
> mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators
> 
> Yes, the school will keep it. As for Dars purchasing one, it has to make
> their approved products list before they do it, and it could be difficult
> because that Calculator isn't technology they routinely purchase for their
> clients. Four a piece of blindness technology, the calculator isn't that
> expensive, and if your son was able to get a scholarship for even $1000,
> he could purchase the calculator himself without having to deal with any
> agency or anything. He would even have several hundred dollars left over
> afterwards. I've never used one of the new ones, so I don't know if there
> any good. There was this one on the computer called the audio graphing
> calculator that I used at one point, and everyone was saying it was great,
> but I thought it was primitive and difficult to use compared to what my
> cited had. Now, I just go without one. Graphs really don't mean much to me
> anyways, so I get a lot more information from equations and tables of
> values. I do like the audio pgraphs better than the tactile ones assuming
> I can get the calculator to graph what I want without bringing up in error
> or graphing the wrong equation, So if I could see one without buying it
> and I liked it, I would try to get one.
> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 6:02 PM, Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> As I replied to Amber privately:
>> 
>> If the school is keeping all of your technology after you are finished
>> in May, they will probably need to keep the Orion TI-84+ as well.
>> However, you would have had a chance to learn how to use it and put
>> forth a better argument to appeal to your local Commission for the
>> Blind or whatever agency is in your area that assists adults who are
>> blind pursue a career, including extending their education. For
>> example, here in Texas, college students can ask their DARS caseworker
>> to purchase one in order for them to be successful in taking their
>> college math classes and possibly for on the job if their career
>> requires such a tool. Showing them that you already know how to use
>> one and are already using it in your high school math class would be a
> big plus I would think.
>> 
>> There has been a great demand for these calculators, and many have had
>> to wait on a back ordered list, so you REALLY want to hurry up and get
>> on this list if you expect to even get one in your hands before the
>> school year is over.
>> 
>> All the calculators and other technology that we purchase from APH on
>> federal quota funds (or otherwise) at TSBVI are retained by the school
>> after the student graduates so that they can be used for current and
>> future students. I believe that this is the practice for other
>> districts/schools in Texas and other states, but I could be wrong.
>> 
>> However, according to the Ex Officio Trustee Handbook:
>> 
>> Retention and Disposal of APH Products Purchased with Federal Quota
>> Funds APH products purchased with Federal Quota funds remain the
>> property of the respective Federal Quota account and the
>> responsibility of the Ex Officio Trustee.
>> 
>> Products purchased with Federal Quota funds revert to the inventory of
>> the Federal Quota account when students exit instructional programs or
>> no longer need them.
>> 
>> It is the responsibility of the Ex Officio Trustee to discard outdated
>> or unusable products purchased with Federal Quota funds.
>> 
>> In order to better leverage federal funds, products purchased with
>> Federal Quota funds may be loaned to other Federal Quota accounts.
>> 
>> If someone from APH, like Ken perhaps, knows otherwise, I would
>> appreciate a clarification.
>> 
>> Thanks for asking Mary.
>> Susan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mary Woodyard
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:20 AM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators
>> 
>> My son also uses The TI 84 audio Graphing Calculator which was
>> purchased for him by the school. My question for Susan is this based
>> on her comment to the senior to have the school purchase a calculator
>> for her with Quota funds.
>> If the school purchases the calculator this way, does the calculator
>> stay with the school when the student graduates or is it the student's
>> to take to college?
>> 
>> Mary Woodyard
>> 
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>  1. audio graphing calculator (Amber Kraft)
>>  2. Re: audio graphing calculator (Ken Perry)
>>  3. Re: audio graphing calculator (Bente)
>>  4. Re: audio graphing calculator (hpscheffer at aol.com)
>>  5. Re: audio graphing calculator (Susan Osterhaus)
>>  6. Re: audio graphing calculator (Ken Perry)
>>  7. Re: audio graphing calculator (Lewicki, Maureen)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:25:22 -0600
>> From: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> Message-ID:
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>> Good morning,
>>   At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready
>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is
>> an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use
>> one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with JAWS, so
>> I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I
>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Amber Kraft
>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:47:45 -0500
>> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> Message-ID: <001301cf37c1$16d4e2e0$447ea8a0$@blinksoft.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> The only hand held Audio graphing Calculator that I know of is the
>> Orion
>> TI-84 Plus you can find info at APH's web site.  www.aph.org .  The
>> calculator's web site is www.aph.org/orion  and if you go to the
>> resources page there are mp3 and video demo's.  You do not need to be
>> sited to watch the videos.
>> 
>> ken
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Amber Kraft
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:25 AM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> 
>> Good morning,
>>   At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready
>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is
>> an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use
>> one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with JAWS, so
>> I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I
>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Amber Kraft
>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>> 
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:48:05 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Bente <bente at casilenc.com>
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> Message-ID:
>>   <1429085688.98304.1393948085973.open-xchange at oxweb01.eigbox.net>
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>> 
>> TI-84 Orion.  Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can use
>> it all through college
>> 
>> Bente Casile
>> Math Learning Specialist
>> Disability Support Services
>> Wake Technical Community College
>> Raleigh, NC
>> 
>>>> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
>>> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
>>> audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one
>>> very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I
>>> was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I
>>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> Amber Kraft
>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>> 
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:02:18 -0500 (EST)
>> From: hpscheffer at aol.com
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> Message-ID: <8D105DA407DB580-2BC4-2034 at webmail-m282.sysops.aol.com>
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>> 
>> My daughter's TVI got one from APH with the state quota. If you have a
>> TVI they can help with the order, or your special education department
>> from your school district could do that as well, you have to get
>> through APH and it should be free. The only one available is the Orion
> TI-84 Plus.
>> Here is a review from an 8th grader
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Student Review of the Orion TI-84Plus Talking Graphing Calculator By
>> Jordan Hello. My name is Jordan. I am amiddle-school student and am in
>> the 8th grade. I am in a Math 1class, which means that it?s time to
>> pull out the graphing calculators.Luckily, when this time came for me,
>> I was already prepared with my Orion TI-84Plus talking graphing
>> calculator which my VI teacher, Nita, had given me.
>> 
>> The device is made by Orion and Texas Instruments,who made the
>> original graphing calculators. This specific calculator, however,is
>> called the ?Orion? calculator because it is able to speak to me and
>> tell mewhat buttons I?m pressing and the points I?ve plotted. What
>> makes thiscalculator unique is that in addition to the regular
>> graphing calculator keys,there is a special set of 10 keys on the top
>> of it called the Orion keys. Thesekeys help you perform certain
>> functions on the calculator such as going to thePreferences menu and
>> repeating the playback of certain equations.
>> 
>> The way that the Orion TI-84 Plus calculatorgraphs is unique and very
>> convenient. Basically, it uses tones to describe theline or the point
>> I?ve plotted on a graph. Although this is helpful, it can bea bit
>> confusing when you?re trying to find a specific point on a line or
>> theintersection of a linear equation. In this case, you?d switch to
>> ?speech? mode,which will then tell you each point on the line as you
>> navigate along it usingthe arrow keys. It will also tell you the
>> intersection of a linear equationwhen you do the usual ?Graph?,
> ?Second?, and ?Trace? process.
>> Also, thanks to aspecial tool that is not limited to the Orion TI-84
>> Plus calculator, I can havemy graphs show up on my computer screen and
>> am able to send them using email.
>> 
>> Besides graphing, whether on an Orion or anormal calculator, you can
>> set programs, use applications, and do various otherthings.
>> Overall, I think this calculator is veryuseful. I?m able to easily
>> plot lines and linear equations, as well as dosimple things like add
>> and subtract. The speech is helpful, of course, and thetones are
>> accommodating when wondering what a line looks like on the screen.
>> Idon?t think that there should be anything changed, except for the
>> fact that itmay occasionally freeze. To solve this problem, the user
>> has to reset thecalculator by holding the ?Control? and ?Function?
>> keys which are particular tothe Orion device. Besides this, I don?t
>> see any flaws and don?t see why a blindstudent who is either in high
>> school or 8th grade should not haveone of these to use in their
> classroom and at home.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>> To: blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:26 am
>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> 
>> 
>> Good morning,
>>   At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready
>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is
>> an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use
>> one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with JAWS, so
>> I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I
>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Amber Kraft
>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:42:19 -0600
>> From: Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> Message-ID: <642408425a9b633c56d75a925fb8d06e at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> Amber,
>> 
>> Yes to the Orion TI-84+ Talking Graphing Calculator, and as a senior
>> in high school, you are still eligible to have your TVI order one from
>> APH on federal quota money. Act quickly.
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bente
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:48 AM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> 
>> TI-84 Orion.  Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can use
>> it all through college
>> 
>> Bente Casile
>> Math Learning Specialist
>> Disability Support Services
>> Wake Technical Community College
>> Raleigh, NC
>> 
>>>> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
>>> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
>>> audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one
>>> very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I
>>> was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I
>>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> Amber Kraft
>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>> 
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:44:45 -0500
>> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> Message-ID: <000b01cf37d1$6f903cd0$4eb0b670$@blinksoft.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Amber I also wanted to mention since I didn't when I posted a response
>> to your query about hand held calculators, I work for APH and I am the
>> project Lead for APH on the Orion TI-84 Plus.  With that said I am not
>> really advertising when I say it is the only hand held one.  I am also
>> 100% blind and have wanted this thing for almost 20 years.
>> We continue to improve the access on the Orion TI-84 Plus and we ask
>> students like yourself to join the beta list and contribute in giving
>> us ideas of how to make it better.
>> 
>> If you want to talk to me about it feel free to give me a call at
>> (502) 899-2336.  There are also people like Susan who has also posted
>> that can give you a great over view of how the calculator works and
>> there are a few of our experts and original beta testers on this list.
>> So if you have questions you can continue to ask them here and one of us
> will grab them.
>> I just didn't want people to think I was using this list as an
>> advertising place.  If there are other devices I just don't know of
>> them and I have looked.
>> 
>> If you want to join the Orion TI-84 Plus user list you can subscribe
>> to it at Gc-subscribe at tech.aph.org
>> 
>> You can put subscribe in the subject and body so the spam filters
>> don't stop it from coming through.  I am sure there are people that
>> can help you there to.
>> 
>> Ken
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Amber Kraft
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:25 AM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> 
>> Good morning,
>>   At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready
>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is
>> an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use
>> one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with JAWS, so
>> I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I
>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Amber Kraft
>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>> 
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:45:06 +0000
>> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> Message-ID: <745A3C15-213D-4BEF-AC5B-7ECC0A6E0BAC at bcsd.neric.org>
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>> 
>> What is the best or easiest way to produce graphics? My student is
>> starting a unit on rotations, etc of geometric shapes. Using the aph
>> mat is good for instructional, but the classroom teacher is going to
>> plow through the diagrams MUCH faster than I can set them up. I always
>> feel like Lucille Ball when the candy conveyor belt got out of control.
>> 
>> I have microsoft paint, a tiger embosser, romeo, a PIAF, quick tac,
>> excel, etc.
>> 
>> I have used wiki stixs, and aph graph paper, but these are difficult
>> for a student to read, and the wiki stix don't travel in a backpack too
> well.
>> 
>> The worksheets I am given are pdf screen shots of used and re used
>> worksheets, so to enlarge and PIAF is not an option, unless I can get
>> them to look crisp.
>> 
>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>> Bethlehem Central Schools
>> 700 Delaware Avenue
>> Delmar, NY 12054
>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:43 AM, "Susan Osterhaus"
>> <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu<mailto:osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Amber,
>> 
>> Yes to the Orion TI-84+ Talking Graphing Calculator, and as a senior
>> in high school, you are still eligible to have your TVI order one from
>> APH on federal quota money. Act quickly.
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bente
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:48 AM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>> 
>> TI-84 Orion.  Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can use
>> it all through college
>> 
>> Bente Casile
>> Math Learning Specialist
>> Disability Support Services
>> Wake Technical Community College
>> Raleigh, NC
>> 
>> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft
>> <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com<mailto:amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Good morning,
>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
>> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
>> audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one
>> very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
>> wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was
>> hoping to get a handheld one.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Amber Kraft
>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>> 
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