[Blindmath] Matrix info

M Lakhani muzz.lakhani at googlemail.com
Mon Mar 10 00:29:23 UTC 2014


Me too! :)
I normally use C and Java arrays to solve these, but this is intriguing!
TIA
Muzz

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> On 8 Mar 2014, at 17:54, sabra1023 <sabra1023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I would be interested.
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:47 AM, "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sabra - I just took a minute and looked at my son's online Math homework
>> this weekend and it is actually to watch two you tube videos about entering
>> Matrices into a ti 84.  HE will be using the accessible.  If you are
>> interested - I take a little video of him going through that journey and
>> share with you how he does with the accessible version.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Susan Osterhaus [mailto:osterhauss at tsbvi.edu] 
>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 8:01 PM
>> To: sabra1023
>> Cc: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics;
>> marywoodyard at comcast.net
>> Subject: RE: [Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators
>> 
>> Hi Sabra,
>> 
>> At least with the Audio Graphing Calculator software (and many other
>> software products), you can download a thirty day free trial before
>> purchase. Texas Instruments offers a calculator loan program for teachers to
>> evaluate their products for up to thirty days as well. Wouldn't it be nice
>> if there was some type of Orion calculator loan program (for those not
>> eligible for the K-12 federal quota purchase) where adults could try it out
>> before purchase? I have probably just opened a can of worms, but at least I
>> put it out there. If you don't ask, you can't expect anyone to respond.
>> 
>> I have created three tutorials on the Orion TI-84+ and the scripts are up on
>> the APH website. I have also video recorded them at TSBVI, and they are in
>> the process of editing and captioning them, but I'm not sure how soon they
>> will be "up" and available. This still isn't having an Orion in your own
>> hands, but it might help a little.
>> 
>> Do you know any blind high school students who already have an Orion
>> TI-84+ and that are in close proximity to you and need a little help 
>> TI-84+ with
>> their math? Perhaps you could tutor them in math and inadvertently get
>> access to one and teach yourself and them how to use it?
>> 
>> OK, those are my ideas for today.
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sabra1023 [mailto:sabra1023 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:38 PM
>> To: Susan Osterhaus
>> Cc: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics;
>> marywoodyard at comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators
>> 
>> It wasn't out while I was in high school though. I'm sure that if it was, I
>> could've seen one, but it wasn't. I was already in college for a year when
>> it came. I don't want to get really excited about it and get one and then
>> find out that it's actually really primitive just like the other when I
>> tried.
>> 
>>>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sabra,
>>> 
>>> I'm going to zero in on your statement: So if I could see one without 
>>> buying it and I liked it, I would try to get one. That's what I was 
>>> really trying to get Amber to do. While still in high school, she 
>>> could get her hands on one, try it out, and find out if she liked it 
>>> or not. Then if she did like it, she could figure out how to get one.
>>> 
>>> Susan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> sabra1023
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:43 PM
>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>> Cc: marywoodyard at comcast.net; Blind Math list for those interested in 
>>> mathematics
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators
>>> 
>>> Yes, the school will keep it. As for Dars purchasing one, it has to 
>>> make their approved products list before they do it, and it could be 
>>> difficult because that Calculator isn't technology they routinely 
>>> purchase for their clients. Four a piece of blindness technology, the 
>>> calculator isn't that expensive, and if your son was able to get a 
>>> scholarship for even $1000, he could purchase the calculator himself 
>>> without having to deal with any agency or anything. He would even have 
>>> several hundred dollars left over afterwards. I've never used one of 
>>> the new ones, so I don't know if there any good. There was this one on 
>>> the computer called the audio graphing calculator that I used at one 
>>> point, and everyone was saying it was great, but I thought it was 
>>> primitive and difficult to use compared to what my cited had. Now, I 
>>> just go without one. Graphs really don't mean much to me anyways, so I 
>>> get a lot more information from equations and tables of values. I do 
>>> like the audio pgraphs better than the tactile ones assuming I can get 
>>> the calculator to graph what I want without bringing up in error or 
>>> graphing the wrong equation, So if I could see one without buying it 
>>> and
>> I liked it, I would try to get one.
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 6:02 PM, Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> As I replied to Amber privately:
>>>> 
>>>> If the school is keeping all of your technology after you are 
>>>> finished in May, they will probably need to keep the Orion TI-84+ as
>> well.
>>>> However, you would have had a chance to learn how to use it and put 
>>>> forth a better argument to appeal to your local Commission for the 
>>>> Blind or whatever agency is in your area that assists adults who are 
>>>> blind pursue a career, including extending their education. For 
>>>> example, here in Texas, college students can ask their DARS 
>>>> caseworker to purchase one in order for them to be successful in 
>>>> taking their college math classes and possibly for on the job if 
>>>> their career requires such a tool. Showing them that you already know 
>>>> how to use one and are already using it in your high school math 
>>>> class would be a
>>> big plus I would think.
>>>> 
>>>> There has been a great demand for these calculators, and many have 
>>>> had to wait on a back ordered list, so you REALLY want to hurry up 
>>>> and get on this list if you expect to even get one in your hands 
>>>> before the school year is over.
>>>> 
>>>> All the calculators and other technology that we purchase from APH on 
>>>> federal quota funds (or otherwise) at TSBVI are retained by the 
>>>> school after the student graduates so that they can be used for 
>>>> current and future students. I believe that this is the practice for 
>>>> other districts/schools in Texas and other states, but I could be
>> wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> However, according to the Ex Officio Trustee Handbook:
>>>> 
>>>> Retention and Disposal of APH Products Purchased with Federal Quota 
>>>> Funds APH products purchased with Federal Quota funds remain the 
>>>> property of the respective Federal Quota account and the 
>>>> responsibility of the Ex Officio Trustee.
>>>> 
>>>> Products purchased with Federal Quota funds revert to the inventory 
>>>> of the Federal Quota account when students exit instructional 
>>>> programs or no longer need them.
>>>> 
>>>> It is the responsibility of the Ex Officio Trustee to discard 
>>>> outdated or unusable products purchased with Federal Quota funds.
>>>> 
>>>> In order to better leverage federal funds, products purchased with 
>>>> Federal Quota funds may be loaned to other Federal Quota accounts.
>>>> 
>>>> If someone from APH, like Ken perhaps, knows otherwise, I would 
>>>> appreciate a clarification.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for asking Mary.
>>>> Susan
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Woodyard
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:20 AM
>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators
>>>> 
>>>> My son also uses The TI 84 audio Graphing Calculator which was 
>>>> purchased for him by the school. My question for Susan is this based 
>>>> on her comment to the senior to have the school purchase a calculator 
>>>> for her with Quota funds.
>>>> If the school purchases the calculator this way, does the calculator 
>>>> stay with the school when the student graduates or is it the 
>>>> student's to take to college?
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Woodyard
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> blindmath-request at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:00 AM
>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Blindmath Digest, Vol 92, Issue 5
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>>>> 
>>>> 1. audio graphing calculator (Amber Kraft)  2. Re: audio graphing 
>>>> calculator (Ken Perry)  3. Re: audio graphing calculator (Bente)  4.
>>>> Re: audio graphing calculator (hpscheffer at aol.com)  5. Re: audio 
>>>> graphing calculator (Susan Osterhaus)  6. Re: audio graphing 
>>>> calculator (Ken Perry)  7. Re: audio graphing calculator (Lewicki,
>>>> Maureen)
>>>> 
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>>>> -
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:25:22 -0600
>>>> From: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>> 
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready 
>>>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math 
>>>> is an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to 
>>>> use one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with 
>>>> JAWS, so I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the 
>>>> best? I was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:47:45 -0500
>>>> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
>>>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> Message-ID: <001301cf37c1$16d4e2e0$447ea8a0$@blinksoft.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>>> 
>>>> The only hand held Audio graphing Calculator that I know of is the 
>>>> Orion
>>>> TI-84 Plus you can find info at APH's web site.  www.aph.org .  The 
>>>> calculator's web site is www.aph.org/orion  and if you go to the 
>>>> resources page there are mp3 and video demo's.  You do not need to be 
>>>> sited to watch the videos.
>>>> 
>>>> ken
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:25 AM
>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready 
>>>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math 
>>>> is an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to 
>>>> use one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with 
>>>> JAWS, so I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the 
>>>> best? I was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:48:05 -0500 (EST)
>>>> From: Bente <bente at casilenc.com>
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <1429085688.98304.1393948085973.open-xchange at oxweb01.eigbox.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>> 
>>>> TI-84 Orion.  Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can 
>>>> use it all through college
>>>> 
>>>> Bente Casile
>>>> Math Learning Specialist
>>>> Disability Support Services
>>>> Wake Technical Community College
>>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>> 
>>>>>> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for 
>>>>> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is 
>>>>> an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use 
>>>>> one very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so 
>>>>> I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I 
>>>>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Blindmath:
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>>>> c.co
>>>> m
>>>>> BlindMath Gems can be found at
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>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:02:18 -0500 (EST)
>>>> From: hpscheffer at aol.com
>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> Message-ID: <8D105DA407DB580-2BC4-2034 at webmail-m282.sysops.aol.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>> My daughter's TVI got one from APH with the state quota. If you have 
>>>> a TVI they can help with the order, or your special education 
>>>> department from your school district could do that as well, you have 
>>>> to get through APH and it should be free. The only one available is 
>>>> the Orion
>>> TI-84 Plus.
>>>> Here is a review from an 8th grader
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Student Review of the Orion TI-84Plus Talking Graphing Calculator By 
>>>> Jordan Hello. My name is Jordan. I am amiddle-school student and am 
>>>> in the 8th grade. I am in a Math 1class, which means that it?s time 
>>>> to pull out the graphing calculators.Luckily, when this time came for 
>>>> me, I was already prepared with my Orion TI-84Plus talking graphing 
>>>> calculator which my VI teacher, Nita, had given me.
>>>> 
>>>> The device is made by Orion and Texas Instruments,who made the 
>>>> original graphing calculators. This specific calculator, however,is 
>>>> called the ?Orion? calculator because it is able to speak to me and 
>>>> tell mewhat buttons I?m pressing and the points I?ve plotted. What 
>>>> makes thiscalculator unique is that in addition to the regular 
>>>> graphing calculator keys,there is a special set of 10 keys on the top 
>>>> of it called the Orion keys. Thesekeys help you perform certain 
>>>> functions on the calculator such as going to thePreferences menu and 
>>>> repeating the playback of certain equations.
>>>> 
>>>> The way that the Orion TI-84 Plus calculatorgraphs is unique and very 
>>>> convenient. Basically, it uses tones to describe theline or the point 
>>>> I?ve plotted on a graph. Although this is helpful, it can bea bit 
>>>> confusing when you?re trying to find a specific point on a line or 
>>>> theintersection of a linear equation. In this case, you?d switch to 
>>>> ?speech? mode,which will then tell you each point on the line as you 
>>>> navigate along it usingthe arrow keys. It will also tell you the 
>>>> intersection of a linear equationwhen you do the usual ?Graph?,
>>> ?Second?, and ?Trace? process.
>>>> Also, thanks to aspecial tool that is not limited to the Orion TI-84 
>>>> Plus calculator, I can havemy graphs show up on my computer screen 
>>>> and am able to send them using email.
>>>> 
>>>> Besides graphing, whether on an Orion or anormal calculator, you can 
>>>> set programs, use applications, and do various otherthings.
>>>> Overall, I think this calculator is veryuseful. I?m able to easily 
>>>> plot lines and linear equations, as well as dosimple things like add 
>>>> and subtract. The speech is helpful, of course, and thetones are 
>>>> accommodating when wondering what a line looks like on the screen.
>>>> Idon?t think that there should be anything changed, except for the 
>>>> fact that itmay occasionally freeze. To solve this problem, the user 
>>>> has to reset thecalculator by holding the ?Control? and ?Function?
>>>> keys which are particular tothe Orion device. Besides this, I don?t 
>>>> see any flaws and don?t see why a blindstudent who is either in high 
>>>> school or 8th grade should not haveone of these to use in their
>>> classroom and at home.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>>>> To: blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:26 am
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready 
>>>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math 
>>>> is an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to 
>>>> use one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with 
>>>> JAWS, so I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the 
>>>> best? I was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>>> 
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>>>> m
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:42:19 -0600
>>>> From: Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> Message-ID: <642408425a9b633c56d75a925fb8d06e at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>> 
>>>> Amber,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes to the Orion TI-84+ Talking Graphing Calculator, and as a senior 
>>>> in high school, you are still eligible to have your TVI order one 
>>>> from APH on federal quota money. Act quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> Susan
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Bente
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:48 AM
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> 
>>>> TI-84 Orion.  Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can 
>>>> use it all through college
>>>> 
>>>> Bente Casile
>>>> Math Learning Specialist
>>>> Disability Support Services
>>>> Wake Technical Community College
>>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>> 
>>>>>> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for 
>>>>> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is 
>>>>> an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use 
>>>>> one very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so 
>>>>> I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I 
>>>>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:44:45 -0500
>>>> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
>>>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> Message-ID: <000b01cf37d1$6f903cd0$4eb0b670$@blinksoft.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>>> 
>>>> Amber I also wanted to mention since I didn't when I posted a 
>>>> response to your query about hand held calculators, I work for APH 
>>>> and I am the project Lead for APH on the Orion TI-84 Plus.  With that 
>>>> said I am not really advertising when I say it is the only hand held 
>>>> one.  I am also 100% blind and have wanted this thing for almost 20
>> years.
>>>> We continue to improve the access on the Orion TI-84 Plus and we ask 
>>>> students like yourself to join the beta list and contribute in giving 
>>>> us ideas of how to make it better.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to talk to me about it feel free to give me a call at
>>>> (502) 899-2336.  There are also people like Susan who has also posted 
>>>> that can give you a great over view of how the calculator works and 
>>>> there are a few of our experts and original beta testers on this list.
>>>> So if you have questions you can continue to ask them here and one of 
>>>> us
>>> will grab them.
>>>> I just didn't want people to think I was using this list as an 
>>>> advertising place.  If there are other devices I just don't know of 
>>>> them and I have looked.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to join the Orion TI-84 Plus user list you can subscribe 
>>>> to it at Gc-subscribe at tech.aph.org
>>>> 
>>>> You can put subscribe in the subject and body so the spam filters 
>>>> don't stop it from coming through.  I am sure there are people that 
>>>> can help you there to.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:25 AM
>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready 
>>>> for college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math 
>>>> is an audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to 
>>>> use one very little and the one I  used was on the computer with 
>>>> JAWS, so I was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the 
>>>> best? I was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>>>> 
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>>>> om
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 7
>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:45:06 +0000
>>>> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> Message-ID: <745A3C15-213D-4BEF-AC5B-7ECC0A6E0BAC at bcsd.neric.org>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>> 
>>>> What is the best or easiest way to produce graphics? My student is 
>>>> starting a unit on rotations, etc of geometric shapes. Using the aph 
>>>> mat is good for instructional, but the classroom teacher is going to 
>>>> plow through the diagrams MUCH faster than I can set them up. I 
>>>> always feel like Lucille Ball when the candy conveyor belt got out of
>> control.
>>>> 
>>>> I have microsoft paint, a tiger embosser, romeo, a PIAF, quick tac, 
>>>> excel, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> I have used wiki stixs, and aph graph paper, but these are difficult 
>>>> for a student to read, and the wiki stix don't travel in a backpack 
>>>> too
>>> well.
>>>> 
>>>> The worksheets I am given are pdf screen shots of used and re used 
>>>> worksheets, so to enlarge and PIAF is not an option, unless I can get 
>>>> them to look crisp.
>>>> 
>>>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>>>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>>>> Bethlehem Central Schools
>>>> 700 Delaware Avenue
>>>> Delmar, NY 12054
>>>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:43 AM, "Susan Osterhaus"
>>>> <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu<mailto:osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Amber,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes to the Orion TI-84+ Talking Graphing Calculator, and as a senior 
>>>> in high school, you are still eligible to have your TVI order one 
>>>> from APH on federal quota money. Act quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> Susan
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Bente
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:48 AM
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
>>>> 
>>>> TI-84 Orion.  Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can 
>>>> use it all through college
>>>> 
>>>> Bente Casile
>>>> Math Learning Specialist
>>>> Disability Support Services
>>>> Wake Technical Community College
>>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>> 
>>>> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft 
>>>> <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com<mailto:amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for 
>>>> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an 
>>>> audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one 
>>>> very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I 
>>>> was wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I 
>>>> was hoping to get a handheld one.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Amber Kraft
>>>> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
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