[Blindmath] For K-12 students only

Mary Woodyard marywoodyard at comcast.net
Tue Feb 24 14:33:54 UTC 2015 

Yesterday I was working with Tommy's Math tutor to install the Simplifying
Factors program for the accessible 84 graphing calculator that Ken gave us
and she mentioned something to me that pertains to testing.  She said that
for College Board and ACT tests, as well as most high school tests teachers
will clear out any programs on your calculator unless you get prior approval
to use them.

I mention this so that if you are using this function in place of a
Scientific Calculator that has this function as standard for sighted
students, you make sure to cover this with your teacher or testing agency or
IEP committee before any testing.  I have found CollegeBoard and ACT easy to
work with so as long as its documented in your IEP - you should be okay.  I
just thought I would mention it.

Mary Woodyard

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   1. Re: Central Access Reader (C.A.R) (nabs.president at gmail.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 03:14:06 -0500
From: <nabs.president at gmail.com>
To: "'Alexa Schriempf'" <ats169 at psu.edu>,	"'Blind Math list for those
	interested in mathematics'"	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Central Access Reader (C.A.R)
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Hi,

I am new to accessible math and have gotten several helpful tips here.
Frankly, it is due to this list that I have an understanding of what is
available and that I know Infty Reader from Equation Editor from MathML. I
have problem sets and handouts that are Word documents with math created in
equation editor. I understand that I can read these using CAR. But I
installed CAR and it doesn't seem to be working with JAWS 16. I haven't dug
in too much, but just wondering if somebody could tell me 1) is CAR
accessible with JAWS 16 and 2) if so, any ideas on where I might find hot
keys or instructions on how to use it?

Somebody mentioned to me that I may be able to export the content to a
webpage where JAWS can read MathML. Does anybody know how to do this? And,
is it correct that there is no way to have JAWS read the math from equation
editor inside MS Word? If not, that'd be a great thing for them to work on.

Thanks for any help. Learning international finance and macroeconomics and
learning how to use these tools all at once is proving to be a heavy lift! I
really appreciate all the help and advice.

Take care,

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alexa
Schriempf via Blindmath
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:45 PM
To: Rebecca Maria Carvalho; Blind Math list for those interested in
mathematics; Central Access @ CWU
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Central Access Reader (C.A.R)

Hi Rebecca,

I used this tool and this method, just as you describe. I'm copying CAR on
this, as they will be very happy to see this. I'm sighted, and my job is AT
support. So I help convert math into accessible documents; CAR is one tool I
use along with MathType. I also use Infty's OCR engine (Infty Reader).

I needed to use CAR's export to HTML because the MathType software doesn't
work on the Mac -- it will operate just fine on a mac and let you input
equations, and get MathML. However, you cannot export/publish an HTML page
out of the MathType running on a mac, that will work for a screenreader. I
tested this using a virtual Windows environment on the Mac, and still got
the same bug. I called Design Science, and worked over the phone with them
and they were suprised and said that I had found a bug. So, for now,
MathType on a PC will in fact publish HTML pages with MathML. If you want to
use MathType on a mac, you will need to save the doc, and then open it with
CAR, and use CAR to export the sucessful HTML with MathML.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Rebecca Maria Carvalho via Blindmath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> Is anyone using the 'Export to HTML' feature in Central Access Reader 
> software for creating accessible math files?(Link -
> http://www.cwu.edu/central-access/reader)
> Have you'll found the C.A.R software useful or have any feedback?
> It basically converts a MS Word file with MathType equations to a 
> .HTML file that's accessible with JAWS & NVDA.
> We were wondering why this software isn't popular among the software 
> available for creating accessible Math content.
>  Regards,Rebecca 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------Rebecca
> Maria Carvalho
> Consultant - Math and Science Access Project Xavier's Resource 
> Centre for the Visually Challenged (XRCVC)St. Xavier's College, 5 
> Mahapalika MargMumbai - 400001+91 22 22623298+91 9967004767 
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:40:59 +0000
From: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
To: "nabs.president at gmail.com" <nabs.president at gmail.com>, "Blind Math
	list	for those interested in mathematics" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Central Access Reader (C.A.R)
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Hello Sean,
I open Word documents full of Equation editor and convert to MathType
equations.
Then I add alt tags to all of them using LEAN. LEAN does not work unless you
have invested in MathType though. Look for LEAN through ViewPlus.com

Before I had LEAN, I would convert all equations from MathType to LaTeX.
This works for documents that have been edited on windows and mac machines.

Hope that helps.
Jonathan





-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean
Whalen via Blindmath
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2015 9:14 p.m.
To: 'Alexa Schriempf'; 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Central Access Reader (C.A.R)

Hi,

I am new to accessible math and have gotten several helpful tips here.
Frankly, it is due to this list that I have an understanding of what is
available and that I know Infty Reader from Equation Editor from MathML. I
have problem sets and handouts that are Word documents with math created in
equation editor. I understand that I can read these using CAR. But I
installed CAR and it doesn't seem to be working with JAWS 16. I haven't dug
in too much, but just wondering if somebody could tell me 1) is CAR
accessible with JAWS 16 and 2) if so, any ideas on where I might find hot
keys or instructions on how to use it?

Somebody mentioned to me that I may be able to export the content to a
webpage where JAWS can read MathML. Does anybody know how to do this? And,
is it correct that there is no way to have JAWS read the math from equation
editor inside MS Word? If not, that'd be a great thing for them to work on.

Thanks for any help. Learning international finance and macroeconomics and
learning how to use these tools all at once is proving to be a heavy lift! I
really appreciate all the help and advice.

Take care,

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alexa
Schriempf via Blindmath
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:45 PM
To: Rebecca Maria Carvalho; Blind Math list for those interested in
mathematics; Central Access @ CWU
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Central Access Reader (C.A.R)

Hi Rebecca,

I used this tool and this method, just as you describe. I'm copying CAR on
this, as they will be very happy to see this. I'm sighted, and my job is AT
support. So I help convert math into accessible documents; CAR is one tool I
use along with MathType. I also use Infty's OCR engine (Infty Reader).

I needed to use CAR's export to HTML because the MathType software doesn't
work on the Mac -- it will operate just fine on a mac and let you input
equations, and get MathML. However, you cannot export/publish an HTML page
out of the MathType running on a mac, that will work for a screenreader. I
tested this using a virtual Windows environment on the Mac, and still got
the same bug. I called Design Science, and worked over the phone with them
and they were suprised and said that I had found a bug. So, for now,
MathType on a PC will in fact publish HTML pages with MathML. If you want to
use MathType on a mac, you will need to save the doc, and then open it with
CAR, and use CAR to export the sucessful HTML with MathML.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Rebecca Maria Carvalho via Blindmath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> Is anyone using the 'Export to HTML' feature in Central Access Reader 
> software for creating accessible math files?(Link -
> http://www.cwu.edu/central-access/reader)
> Have you'll found the C.A.R software useful or have any feedback?
> It basically converts a MS Word file with MathType equations to a 
> .HTML file that's accessible with JAWS & NVDA.
> We were wondering why this software isn't popular among the software 
> available for creating accessible Math content.
>  Regards,Rebecca 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------Rebecca
> Maria Carvalho
> Consultant - Math and Science Access Project Xavier's Resource 
> Centre for the Visually Challenged (XRCVC)St. Xavier's College, 5 
> Mahapalika MargMumbai - 400001+91 22 22623298+91 9967004767 
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