[Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 112, Issue 2
Anita Campbell
anita.campbell at msab.state.mn.us
Fri Nov 6 14:04:58 UTC 2015
I am a teacher for the blind/visually impaired and I teach High School math
at Minnesota State Academy for the Blind. One of the biggest challenges
that students that are blind face in my classroom is graphs and the tactile
graphics in textbooks. The tactile graphics are not always accurate and do
not contain as much accessible information as print graphics. I would
really like my students to have an audio description of tactile graphics
from their textbooks. The other problem is creating graphs and then being
able to investigate them immediately. Sure they can use a talking graphing
calculator but they will not be able to investigate the graph that the
calculator created. When students that are blind and take the ACT test they
are not only being tested on their academics they are also being tested on
their ability to gain information from tactile graphics and sometimes their
spatial awareness hampers that ability. 75% of the science portion of the
Explore ACT test is tactile graphics.
Anita Campbell
Teacher for the Blind Visually Impaired
Minnesota Academy for the Blind
anita.campbell at msab.state.mn.us
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> 1. Making the University classroom more accessible (Goda Biek?ait?)
> 2. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (Lewicki, Maureen)
> 3. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (Goda Biek?ait?)
> 4. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (vincent martin)
> 5. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (Lewicki, Maureen)
> 6. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (hpscheffer at aol.com)
> 7. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (Goda Biek?ait?)
> 8. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (vincent martin)
> 9. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible
> (Wershing, Alice D.)
> 10. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible (Sabra Ewing)
> 11. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible (Sina Bahram)
> 12. Re: Making the University classroom more accessible (Laura Etori)
> 13. Copying MathPlayer output (Greg Williams)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:22:46 +0000
> From: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Lily Elshaktori <lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>, Priyanka Mohata
> <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>, Gareth Humphries
> <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>, Poppie Simmonds <
> poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
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>
> Hello all,
>
>
> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of Birmingham.
> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real life
> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired students
> in a classroom setting.
>
> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with as
> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced and
> areas for improvement.
>
>
> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your experience
> - we would really appreciate it.
>
>
> We can't wait to hear from you,
>
> Goda
>
>
> Questions:
>
>
> If you?re a student:
>
> -
>
> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> -
>
> How accessible is it?
> -
>
> How easy to master is it?
> -
>
> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> in the classroom?
> -
>
> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> -
>
> IF YES:
> -
>
> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> -
>
> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> and 2d.
> -
>
> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> formulae?
> -
>
> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> -
>
> IF NO:
> -
>
> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> impaired into the classroom?
> -
>
> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so how
> did they accommodate you?
> -
>
> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you in
> the classroom?
> -
>
> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> lectures/lessons?
> -
>
> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> -
>
> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of what
> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
>
>
> If you?re a teacher:
>
> -
>
> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> impaired students?
> -
>
> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> encounter?
> -
>
> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> -
>
> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> preparation for the classes?
> -
>
> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> students in the classroom?
> -
>
> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> might use?
> -
>
> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d and
> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> -
>
> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:36:04 +0000
> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
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> <AD0247C3A039BA4B87F37DD2B02CCCEF12E5E1CF at HEX2.mail.neric.local>
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>
> Before I answer this survey I would be interested to know if there are any
> blind and visually impaired students on the team? How familiar are you with
> what is already out there for the students to use? I often see research and
> development on the University level which develops things that are already
> out there. thanks
>
> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> Bethlehem Central School District
> Bethlehem High School
> 700 Delaware Ave
> Delmar, NY 12054
> http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience
> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and
> success achieved. Helen Keller
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:23 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Goda Biek?ait?; Lily Elshaktori; Priyanka Mohata; Gareth Humphries;
> Poppie Simmonds
> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of Birmingham.
> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real life
> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired students
> in a classroom setting.
>
> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with as
> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced and
> areas for improvement.
>
>
> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your experience
> - we would really appreciate it.
>
>
> We can't wait to hear from you,
>
> Goda
>
>
> Questions:
>
>
> If you?re a student:
>
> -
>
> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> -
>
> How accessible is it?
> -
>
> How easy to master is it?
> -
>
> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> in the classroom?
> -
>
> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> -
>
> IF YES:
> -
>
> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> -
>
> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> and 2d.
> -
>
> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> formulae?
> -
>
> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> -
>
> IF NO:
> -
>
> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> impaired into the classroom?
> -
>
> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so how
> did they accommodate you?
> -
>
> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you in
> the classroom?
> -
>
> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> lectures/lessons?
> -
>
> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> -
>
> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of what
> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
>
>
> If you?re a teacher:
>
> -
>
> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> impaired students?
> -
>
> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> encounter?
> -
>
> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> -
>
> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> preparation for the classes?
> -
>
> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> students in the classroom?
> -
>
> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> might use?
> -
>
> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d and
> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> -
>
> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:22:34 +0000
> From: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID:
> <CAJb3Hkkef9if0KraLx=kJJZqkUqMEkaCaf4WJouWAAWp8h=
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>
> Hi Maureen,
>
> Of course! None of us are visually impaired and therefore we really want to
> understand as much as we can.
>
> In regards of the the solutions and information that is already there we
> have done quite a lot of research. As far as we have found, visually
> impaired students use either tactile or audio oriented solutions. In
> regards of text there's two choices - Braille or screen readers. As far as
> we have seen Braille readers are rather expensive and entire books in
> Braille are rare and difficult to obtain And therefore most people prefer
> screen readers. JAWS, NVDA etc. More technologies we have looked into is
> using sound and music to represent graphs and geometric objects, distances
> and sizes, haptic feedback (like haptic mouse), magnifiers, sonic based
> haptic representation of 3d objects (although a great idea it's currently
> still in development), talking tactile tablet, raised paper, the chemistry
> diagram translation into audible description. We also looked into possibly
> using 3D printing to explain 3D objects.
>
> I'm sure I missed a few of them but we tried to find as much information as
> we can. But we're not trying to create a new piece of technology as we know
> that shifting from one piece of the tech that you are already using to a
> complete new one can be difficult. But maybe we incorporate different bits
> from different tech together? Or make something that is currently not
> accessible with current tech that is used - accessible... Except we don't
> know what people actually use. Finances, accessibility and situations are
> different for all...
>
> Also thank you so much for such a rapid response! Really does mean a lot!
>
> Kind regards,
> Goda
> MSci Computer Science
> 3d Year Student
> University of Birmingham
> 2015 lapkr. 5 15:38 "Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath" <blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >
> ra??:
>
> > Before I answer this survey I would be interested to know if there are
> any
> > blind and visually impaired students on the team? How familiar are you
> with
> > what is already out there for the students to use? I often see research
> and
> > development on the University level which develops things that are
> already
> > out there. thanks
> >
> > Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> > Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> > Bethlehem Central School District
> > Bethlehem High School
> > 700 Delaware Ave
> > Delmar, NY 12054
> > http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> > Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience
> > of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired,
> and
> > success achieved. Helen Keller
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> > Biek?aite via Blindmath
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:23 AM
> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Goda Biek?ait?; Lily Elshaktori; Priyanka Mohata; Gareth Humphries;
> > Poppie Simmonds
> > Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of
> Birmingham.
> > As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> > Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real
> life
> > problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired
> students
> > in a classroom setting.
> >
> > We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with
> as
> > many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> > anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> > understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced
> and
> > areas for improvement.
> >
> >
> > We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> > answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> > would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your
> experience
> > - we would really appreciate it.
> >
> >
> > We can't wait to hear from you,
> >
> > Goda
> >
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> >
> > If you?re a student:
> >
> > -
> >
> > What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> > -
> >
> > How accessible is it?
> > -
> >
> > How easy to master is it?
> > -
> >
> > On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> > in the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> > -
> >
> > IF YES:
> > -
> >
> > What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> > -
> >
> > How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> > and 2d.
> > -
> >
> > How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> > formulae?
> > -
> >
> > What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> > -
> >
> > IF NO:
> > -
> >
> > What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> > impaired into the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so
> how
> > did they accommodate you?
> > -
> >
> > Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you
> in
> > the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> > lectures/lessons?
> > -
> >
> > If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> > moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> > -
> >
> > What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of
> what
> > has been created already. Please. Go wild)
> >
> >
> > If you?re a teacher:
> >
> > -
> >
> > What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> > impaired students?
> > -
> >
> > What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> > encounter?
> > -
> >
> > What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> > -
> >
> > What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> > preparation for the classes?
> > -
> >
> > What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> > students in the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> > might use?
> > -
> >
> > How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d
> and
> > 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> > -
> >
> > What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:37:52 -0500
> From: "vincent martin" <vincent.martin at gatech.edu>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: 'Goda Biek?ait?' <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>, "'Lily
> Elshaktori'"
> <lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>, "'Priyanka Mohata'"
> <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>, "'Gareth Humphries'"
> <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>, "'Poppie Simmonds'"
> <poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID: <009f01d117e8$50d409e0$f27c1da0$@gatech.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello,
> I am a totally blind Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at Georgia
> Tech. I have previously earned four STEM degrees. I have worked as a
> rehabilitation engineer and research scientist and have advise a number of
> undergraduate and graduate level teams on similar projects. The first
> thing I always advise the teams to do is a very thoroughly literature
> review. As a graduate student doing research, it would be the first thing
> you would normally consider, but most undergraduates have never been taught
> how or why to do it.
> What you are asking in your survey is far too wide of a scope to assist
> you. You can end up going in so many directions and may end up recreating
> the exact thing that someone just did a few months ago. You can search the
> Journal of the Visually Impaired and the Blind, ACM's SIG Access (ASSETS)
> and the SIGCHI (CHI) journals for a vast number of projects related to
> creating access for people with visual disabilities.
> You can also just use any search engine for search words pertaining to
> this topic and the browser will give you many directions to go int. So
> many products/projects end up on some news program, but really are just
> class projects created for a class for too many times to count.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:23 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>; Lily Elshaktori <
> lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>; Priyanka Mohata <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>; Gareth
> Humphries <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>; Poppie Simmonds <
> poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of Birmingham.
> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real life
> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired students
> in a classroom setting.
>
> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with as
> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced and
> areas for improvement.
>
>
> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your experience
> - we would really appreciate it.
>
>
> We can't wait to hear from you,
>
> Goda
>
>
> Questions:
>
>
> If you?re a student:
>
> -
>
> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> -
>
> How accessible is it?
> -
>
> How easy to master is it?
> -
>
> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> in the classroom?
> -
>
> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> -
>
> IF YES:
> -
>
> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> -
>
> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> and 2d.
> -
>
> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> formulae?
> -
>
> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> -
>
> IF NO:
> -
>
> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> impaired into the classroom?
> -
>
> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so how
> did they accommodate you?
> -
>
> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you in
> the classroom?
> -
>
> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> lectures/lessons?
> -
>
> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> -
>
> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of what
> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
>
>
> If you?re a teacher:
>
> -
>
> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> impaired students?
> -
>
> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> encounter?
> -
>
> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> -
>
> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> preparation for the classes?
> -
>
> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> students in the classroom?
> -
>
> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> might use?
> -
>
> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d and
> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> -
>
> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> _______________________________________________
> Blindmath mailing list
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> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:43:24 +0000
> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID:
> <AD0247C3A039BA4B87F37DD2B02CCCEF12E5E401 at HEX2.mail.neric.local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> To the Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at Georgia Tech: please
> contact me offline! I have students whose classroom teachers are very
> challenged to have in their classes. I have a good team of people who are
> supporting the student, but I would love to hear your experiences, AND to
> pass some of those stories onto the teachers who are always skeptical that
> my students can be in advanced classes. Thanks so much
> Maureen
> mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org
>
>
> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> Bethlehem Central School District
> Bethlehem High School
> 700 Delaware Ave
> Delmar, NY 12054
> http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience
> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and
> success achieved. Helen Keller
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> vincent martin via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:38 AM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Cc: vincent martin; 'Lily Elshaktori'; 'Priyanka Mohata'; 'Gareth
> Humphries'; 'Poppie Simmonds'
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> Hello,
> I am a totally blind Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at Georgia
> Tech. I have previously earned four STEM degrees. I have worked as a
> rehabilitation engineer and research scientist and have advise a number of
> undergraduate and graduate level teams on similar projects. The first
> thing I always advise the teams to do is a very thoroughly literature
> review. As a graduate student doing research, it would be the first thing
> you would normally consider, but most undergraduates have never been taught
> how or why to do it.
> What you are asking in your survey is far too wide of a scope to assist
> you. You can end up going in so many directions and may end up recreating
> the exact thing that someone just did a few months ago. You can search the
> Journal of the Visually Impaired and the Blind, ACM's SIG Access (ASSETS)
> and the SIGCHI (CHI) journals for a vast number of projects related to
> creating access for people with visual disabilities.
> You can also just use any search engine for search words pertaining to
> this topic and the browser will give you many directions to go int. So
> many products/projects end up on some news program, but really are just
> class projects created for a class for too many times to count.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:23 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>; Lily Elshaktori <
> lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>; Priyanka Mohata <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>; Gareth
> Humphries <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>; Poppie Simmonds <
> poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of Birmingham.
> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real life
> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired students
> in a classroom setting.
>
> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with as
> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced and
> areas for improvement.
>
>
> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your experience
> - we would really appreciate it.
>
>
> We can't wait to hear from you,
>
> Goda
>
>
> Questions:
>
>
> If you?re a student:
>
> -
>
> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> -
>
> How accessible is it?
> -
>
> How easy to master is it?
> -
>
> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> in the classroom?
> -
>
> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> -
>
> IF YES:
> -
>
> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> -
>
> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> and 2d.
> -
>
> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> formulae?
> -
>
> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> -
>
> IF NO:
> -
>
> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> impaired into the classroom?
> -
>
> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so how
> did they accommodate you?
> -
>
> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you in
> the classroom?
> -
>
> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> lectures/lessons?
> -
>
> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> -
>
> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of what
> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
>
>
> If you?re a teacher:
>
> -
>
> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> impaired students?
> -
>
> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> encounter?
> -
>
> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> -
>
> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> preparation for the classes?
> -
>
> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> students in the classroom?
> -
>
> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> might use?
> -
>
> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d and
> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> -
>
> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> _______________________________________________
> Blindmath mailing list
> Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
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> Blindmath:
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> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:01:47 -0500
> From: hpscheffer at aol.com
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID: <EDDD435E-37C9-470A-BBC3-901FD399EF96 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi, on Maureen's topic I like to hear the same. Please share! May be
> changing the subject would keep the topic more organized? But love to hear
> stories on it.
> Thanks
> Heidi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 5, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > To the Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at Georgia Tech: please
> contact me offline! I have students whose classroom teachers are very
> challenged to have in their classes. I have a good team of people who are
> supporting the student, but I would love to hear your experiences, AND to
> pass some of those stories onto the teachers who are always skeptical that
> my students can be in advanced classes. Thanks so much
> > Maureen
> > mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org
> >
> >
> > Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> > Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> > Bethlehem Central School District
> > Bethlehem High School
> > 700 Delaware Ave
> > Delmar, NY 12054
> > http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> > Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience
> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and
> success achieved. Helen Keller
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> vincent martin via Blindmath
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:38 AM
> > To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> > Cc: vincent martin; 'Lily Elshaktori'; 'Priyanka Mohata'; 'Gareth
> Humphries'; 'Poppie Simmonds'
> > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >
> > Hello,
> > I am a totally blind Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at
> Georgia Tech. I have previously earned four STEM degrees. I have worked
> as a rehabilitation engineer and research scientist and have advise a
> number of undergraduate and graduate level teams on similar projects. The
> first thing I always advise the teams to do is a very thoroughly literature
> review. As a graduate student doing research, it would be the first thing
> you would normally consider, but most undergraduates have never been taught
> how or why to do it.
> > What you are asking in your survey is far too wide of a scope to assist
> you. You can end up going in so many directions and may end up recreating
> the exact thing that someone just did a few months ago. You can search the
> Journal of the Visually Impaired and the Blind, ACM's SIG Access (ASSETS)
> and the SIGCHI (CHI) journals for a vast number of projects related to
> creating access for people with visual disabilities.
> > You can also just use any search engine for search words pertaining to
> this topic and the browser will give you many directions to go int. So
> many products/projects end up on some news program, but really are just
> class projects created for a class for too many times to count.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:23 AM
> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>; Lily Elshaktori <
> lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>; Priyanka Mohata <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>; Gareth
> Humphries <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>; Poppie Simmonds <
> poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of
> Birmingham.
> > As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real life
> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired students
> in a classroom setting.
> >
> > We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with
> as many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced and
> areas for improvement.
> >
> >
> > We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your experience
> > - we would really appreciate it.
> >
> >
> > We can't wait to hear from you,
> >
> > Goda
> >
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> >
> > If you?re a student:
> >
> > -
> >
> > What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> > -
> >
> > How accessible is it?
> > -
> >
> > How easy to master is it?
> > -
> >
> > On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> > in the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> > -
> >
> > IF YES:
> > -
> >
> > What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> > -
> >
> > How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> > and 2d.
> > -
> >
> > How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> formulae?
> > -
> >
> > What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> > -
> >
> > IF NO:
> > -
> >
> > What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> > impaired into the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so how
> > did they accommodate you?
> > -
> >
> > Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you
> in
> > the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> > lectures/lessons?
> > -
> >
> > If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> > moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> > -
> >
> > What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of what
> > has been created already. Please. Go wild)
> >
> >
> > If you?re a teacher:
> >
> > -
> >
> > What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> > impaired students?
> > -
> >
> > What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> > encounter?
> > -
> >
> > What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> > -
> >
> > What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> > preparation for the classes?
> > -
> >
> > What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> > students in the classroom?
> > -
> >
> > How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> > might use?
> > -
> >
> > How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d
> and
> > 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> > -
> >
> > What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blindmath mailing list
> > Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Blindmath:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/vincent.martin%40gatech.edu
> > BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blindmath mailing list
> > Blindmath at nfbnet.org
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> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Blindmath:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/mlewicki%40bcsd.neric.org
> > BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
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> Blindmath:
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> > BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:19:01 +0000
> From: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>
> To: vincent martin <vincent.martin at gatech.edu>, Blind Math list
> for
> those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID:
> <CAJb3Hkmv=f+8xn4=
> aJDEr7wxhotYAAVqsmrdqvdDdBo+X4Yzew at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Please, if there are any experiences that anyone could share - that would
> be great! Any feedback would be of great help!
>
> Cheers,
> Goda
>
> 2015-11-05 17:16 GMT+00:00 Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Vincent!
> >
> > Thank you so much for the reply. I suppose our description of what we do
> > or where we are in the project is not clear.... Sorry about that.
> > Basically, since all of us in the team are sighted, we tried and reach
> out
> > to students that are visually impaired and schools, but we had such a low
> > response rate. And as the lady in our chemistry faculty has said -
> there's
> > a lot of research fatigue. And we fully understand it. However, we really
> > want to try and understand the problem. And...a silly and as ignorant as
> > this will sound, we genuinely don't know how visually impaired students
> > understand geometry and graphs, 2d and 3d objects. And without having
> > anyone to talk to...we had to rely on the internet. And that is why our
> > questionnaire is so broad.
> >
> > In regards of what we're trying to achieve. We are not trying to create a
> > new tech solution. We are well aware that creating a new piece of
> > technology is not the solution, as that is yet another thing to master,
> to
> > get used to, to implement an it's just not financially feasible either.
> > What we would aim to do is find a way to improve current technology or
> > software or adapt something to a current software. For example, to aid in
> > understanding chemical molecule diagrams, one of our university
> researchers
> > created a system as a plugin for JAWS and NVDA to translate a bitmap
> image
> > of the molecule graph into a multilayer audible system. It's not
> something
> > new but a small addition to what already exists. We are aiming to do
> > something similar.
> >
> > If you could give us any feedback at all. Of what it feels like to be a
> > visually impaired student doing a science degree, what frustrated you or
> > anything at all that you could tell - that would greatly help us! Also
> > this is just... It literally made us jump from excitement that we have
> > replies! We possibly have people to talk to!!!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Goda
> >
> > 2015-11-05 16:37 GMT+00:00 vincent martin <vincent.martin at gatech.edu>:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> I am a totally blind Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at
> Georgia
> >> Tech. I have previously earned four STEM degrees. I have worked as a
> >> rehabilitation engineer and research scientist and have advise a number
> of
> >> undergraduate and graduate level teams on similar projects. The first
> >> thing I always advise the teams to do is a very thoroughly literature
> >> review. As a graduate student doing research, it would be the first
> thing
> >> you would normally consider, but most undergraduates have never been
> taught
> >> how or why to do it.
> >> What you are asking in your survey is far too wide of a scope to assist
> >> you. You can end up going in so many directions and may end up
> recreating
> >> the exact thing that someone just did a few months ago. You can search
> the
> >> Journal of the Visually Impaired and the Blind, ACM's SIG Access
> (ASSETS)
> >> and the SIGCHI (CHI) journals for a vast number of projects related to
> >> creating access for people with visual disabilities.
> >> You can also just use any search engine for search words pertaining to
> >> this topic and the browser will give you many directions to go int. So
> >> many products/projects end up on some news program, but really are just
> >> class projects created for a class for too many times to count.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> >> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:23 AM
> >> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >> Cc: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>; Lily Elshaktori <
> >> lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>; Priyanka Mohata <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>;
> >> Gareth Humphries <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>; Poppie Simmonds <
> >> poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of
> Birmingham.
> >> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> >> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real
> life
> >> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired
> students
> >> in a classroom setting.
> >>
> >> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with
> >> as many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> >> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> >> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced
> and
> >> areas for improvement.
> >>
> >>
> >> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> >> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> >> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your
> experience
> >> - we would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >>
> >> We can't wait to hear from you,
> >>
> >> Goda
> >>
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a student:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How accessible is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How easy to master is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive
> software
> >> in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF YES:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> >> and 2d.
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> >> formulae?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF NO:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> >> impaired into the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so
> how
> >> did they accommodate you?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you
> >> in
> >> the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> >> lectures/lessons?
> >> -
> >>
> >> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> >> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of
> what
> >> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a teacher:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> >> impaired students?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> >> encounter?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> >> preparation for the classes?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually
> impaired
> >> students in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the
> students
> >> might use?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d
> >> and
> >> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blindmath mailing list
> >> Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> Blindmath:
> >>
> >>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/vincent.martin%40gatech.edu
> >> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> >> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 12:40:58 -0500
> From: "vincent martin" <vincent.martin at gatech.edu>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID: <010501d117f1$219560d0$64c02270$@gatech.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I will respond off line later.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:43 AM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics' <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lewicki, Maureen <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> To the Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at Georgia Tech: please
> contact me offline! I have students whose classroom teachers are very
> challenged to have in their classes. I have a good team of people who are
> supporting the student, but I would love to hear your experiences, AND to
> pass some of those stories onto the teachers who are always skeptical that
> my students can be in advanced classes. Thanks so much Maureen
> mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org
>
>
> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> Bethlehem Central School District
> Bethlehem High School
> 700 Delaware Ave
> Delmar, NY 12054
> http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience
> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and
> success achieved. Helen Keller
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> vincent martin via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:38 AM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Cc: vincent martin; 'Lily Elshaktori'; 'Priyanka Mohata'; 'Gareth
> Humphries'; 'Poppie Simmonds'
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> Hello,
> I am a totally blind Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at Georgia
> Tech. I have previously earned four STEM degrees. I have worked as a
> rehabilitation engineer and research scientist and have advise a number of
> undergraduate and graduate level teams on similar projects. The first
> thing I always advise the teams to do is a very thoroughly literature
> review. As a graduate student doing research, it would be the first thing
> you would normally consider, but most undergraduates have never been taught
> how or why to do it.
> What you are asking in your survey is far too wide of a scope to assist
> you. You can end up going in so many directions and may end up recreating
> the exact thing that someone just did a few months ago. You can search the
> Journal of the Visually Impaired and the Blind, ACM's SIG Access (ASSETS)
> and the SIGCHI (CHI) journals for a vast number of projects related to
> creating access for people with visual disabilities.
> You can also just use any search engine for search words pertaining to
> this topic and the browser will give you many directions to go int. So
> many products/projects end up on some news program, but really are just
> class projects created for a class for too many times to count.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:23 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>; Lily Elshaktori <
> lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>; Priyanka Mohata <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>; Gareth
> Humphries <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>; Poppie Simmonds <
> poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of Birmingham.
> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real life
> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired students
> in a classroom setting.
>
> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with as
> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced and
> areas for improvement.
>
>
> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your experience
> - we would really appreciate it.
>
>
> We can't wait to hear from you,
>
> Goda
>
>
> Questions:
>
>
> If you?re a student:
>
> -
>
> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> -
>
> How accessible is it?
> -
>
> How easy to master is it?
> -
>
> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> in the classroom?
> -
>
> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> -
>
> IF YES:
> -
>
> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> -
>
> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> and 2d.
> -
>
> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> formulae?
> -
>
> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> -
>
> IF NO:
> -
>
> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> impaired into the classroom?
> -
>
> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so how
> did they accommodate you?
> -
>
> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you in
> the classroom?
> -
>
> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> lectures/lessons?
> -
>
> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> -
>
> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of what
> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
>
>
> If you?re a teacher:
>
> -
>
> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> impaired students?
> -
>
> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> encounter?
> -
>
> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> -
>
> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> preparation for the classes?
> -
>
> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> students in the classroom?
> -
>
> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> might use?
> -
>
> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d and
> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> -
>
> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:54:41 +0000
> From: "Wershing, Alice D." <adwershing at pstcc.edu>
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>, 'vincent martin' <
> vincent.martin at gatech.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 12:19 PM
> To: vincent martin <vincent.martin at gatech.edu>; Blind Math list for those
> interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> Please, if there are any experiences that anyone could share - that would
> be great! Any feedback would be of great help!
>
> Cheers,
> Goda
>
> 2015-11-05 17:16 GMT+00:00 Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Vincent!
> >
> > Thank you so much for the reply. I suppose our description of what we
> > do or where we are in the project is not clear.... Sorry about that.
> > Basically, since all of us in the team are sighted, we tried and reach
> > out to students that are visually impaired and schools, but we had
> > such a low response rate. And as the lady in our chemistry faculty has
> > said - there's a lot of research fatigue. And we fully understand it.
> > However, we really want to try and understand the problem. And...a
> > silly and as ignorant as this will sound, we genuinely don't know how
> > visually impaired students understand geometry and graphs, 2d and 3d
> > objects. And without having anyone to talk to...we had to rely on the
> > internet. And that is why our questionnaire is so broad.
> >
> > In regards of what we're trying to achieve. We are not trying to
> > create a new tech solution. We are well aware that creating a new
> > piece of technology is not the solution, as that is yet another thing
> > to master, to get used to, to implement an it's just not financially
> feasible either.
> > What we would aim to do is find a way to improve current technology or
> > software or adapt something to a current software. For example, to aid
> > in understanding chemical molecule diagrams, one of our university
> > researchers created a system as a plugin for JAWS and NVDA to
> > translate a bitmap image of the molecule graph into a multilayer
> > audible system. It's not something new but a small addition to what
> > already exists. We are aiming to do something similar.
> >
> > If you could give us any feedback at all. Of what it feels like to be
> > a visually impaired student doing a science degree, what frustrated
> > you or anything at all that you could tell - that would greatly help
> > us! Also this is just... It literally made us jump from excitement
> > that we have replies! We possibly have people to talk to!!!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Goda
> >
> > 2015-11-05 16:37 GMT+00:00 vincent martin <vincent.martin at gatech.edu>:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> I am a totally blind Ph.D. student in Human Centered Computing at
> >> Georgia Tech. I have previously earned four STEM degrees. I have
> >> worked as a rehabilitation engineer and research scientist and have
> >> advise a number of undergraduate and graduate level teams on similar
> >> projects. The first thing I always advise the teams to do is a very
> >> thoroughly literature review. As a graduate student doing research,
> >> it would be the first thing you would normally consider, but most
> >> undergraduates have never been taught how or why to do it.
> >> What you are asking in your survey is far too wide of a scope to
> >> assist you. You can end up going in so many directions and may end
> >> up recreating the exact thing that someone just did a few months ago.
> >> You can search the Journal of the Visually Impaired and the Blind,
> >> ACM's SIG Access (ASSETS) and the SIGCHI (CHI) journals for a vast
> >> number of projects related to creating access for people with visual
> disabilities.
> >> You can also just use any search engine for search words pertaining
> >> to this topic and the browser will give you many directions to go
> >> int. So many products/projects end up on some news program, but
> >> really are just class projects created for a class for too many times
> to count.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Goda Biek?aite via Blindmath
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:23 AM
> >> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >> Cc: Goda Biek?ait? <goda.bieksaite at gmail.com>; Lily Elshaktori <
> >> lilyelshaktori at gmail.com>; Priyanka Mohata <pmohata.95 at gmail.com>;
> >> Gareth Humphries <garethjhumphries at gmail.com>; Poppie Simmonds <
> >> poppie.leigh at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of
> Birmingham.
> >> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software
> >> Design Study, in which we research and design a solution to an
> >> existing real life problem. Our team is looking into further aiding
> >> visually impaired students in a classroom setting.
> >>
> >> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak
> >> with as many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually
> >> impaired or anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a
> >> better understanding of learning and teaching techniques used,
> >> problems faced and areas for improvement.
> >>
> >>
> >> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you
> >> could answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything
> >> that you would like to add, or even if you would just want to share
> >> your experience
> >> - we would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >>
> >> We can't wait to hear from you,
> >>
> >> Goda
> >>
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a student:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How accessible is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How easy to master is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive
> software
> >> in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF YES:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> >> and 2d.
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> >> formulae?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF NO:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> >> impaired into the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so
> how
> >> did they accommodate you?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist
> >> you in
> >> the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> >> lectures/lessons?
> >> -
> >>
> >> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> >> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of
> what
> >> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a teacher:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> >> impaired students?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> >> encounter?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> >> preparation for the classes?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually
> impaired
> >> students in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the
> students
> >> might use?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms,
> >> 3d and
> >> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> %40gatech.edu
> >> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> >> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >>
> >>
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 14:40:34 -0600
> From: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID: <98DD899E-91AD-4B47-81BA-B5CE8A73C62E at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I really think you should have a blind student on your team. You say of
> course you don't have one as though you can't be expected to find one
> anywhere, but I bet one goes to your school, and that student may even be
> majoring in math or computer science I think you should work on a specific
> piece of technology that converts two dimensional objects including moving
> images into still or moving in three-dimensional images. You point the
> camera at the picture, and it robotic arms form the three-dimensional image
> out of clay or maybe the device can somehow fold into the image. Or if you
> could make a sheet portable 3-D printer, that would also be fine and you
> could scan the image in and it would printed out in three dimensions.
> However, the problem with 3-D printing now is that it is expensive and
> impractical to use.
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
> > On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Goda Biek?ait? via Blindmath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maureen,
> >
> > Of course! None of us are visually impaired and therefore we really want
> to
> > understand as much as we can.
> >
> > In regards of the the solutions and information that is already there we
> > have done quite a lot of research. As far as we have found, visually
> > impaired students use either tactile or audio oriented solutions. In
> > regards of text there's two choices - Braille or screen readers. As far
> as
> > we have seen Braille readers are rather expensive and entire books in
> > Braille are rare and difficult to obtain And therefore most people prefer
> > screen readers. JAWS, NVDA etc. More technologies we have looked into is
> > using sound and music to represent graphs and geometric objects,
> distances
> > and sizes, haptic feedback (like haptic mouse), magnifiers, sonic based
> > haptic representation of 3d objects (although a great idea it's currently
> > still in development), talking tactile tablet, raised paper, the
> chemistry
> > diagram translation into audible description. We also looked into
> possibly
> > using 3D printing to explain 3D objects.
> >
> > I'm sure I missed a few of them but we tried to find as much information
> as
> > we can. But we're not trying to create a new piece of technology as we
> know
> > that shifting from one piece of the tech that you are already using to a
> > complete new one can be difficult. But maybe we incorporate different
> bits
> > from different tech together? Or make something that is currently not
> > accessible with current tech that is used - accessible... Except we
> don't
> > know what people actually use. Finances, accessibility and situations are
> > different for all...
> >
> > Also thank you so much for such a rapid response! Really does mean a lot!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Goda
> > MSci Computer Science
> > 3d Year Student
> > University of Birmingham
> > 2015 lapkr. 5 15:38 "Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > ra??:
> >
> >> Before I answer this survey I would be interested to know if there are
> any
> >> blind and visually impaired students on the team? How familiar are you
> with
> >> what is already out there for the students to use? I often see research
> and
> >> development on the University level which develops things that are
> already
> >> out there. thanks
> >>
> >> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> >> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> >> Bethlehem Central School District
> >> Bethlehem High School
> >> 700 Delaware Ave
> >> Delmar, NY 12054
> >> http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> >> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience
> >> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired,
> and
> >> success achieved. Helen Keller
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> >> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:23 AM
> >> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >> Cc: Goda Biek?ait?; Lily Elshaktori; Priyanka Mohata; Gareth Humphries;
> >> Poppie Simmonds
> >> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of
> Birmingham.
> >> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> >> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real
> life
> >> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired
> students
> >> in a classroom setting.
> >>
> >> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with
> as
> >> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> >> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> >> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced
> and
> >> areas for improvement.
> >>
> >>
> >> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> >> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> >> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your
> experience
> >> - we would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >>
> >> We can't wait to hear from you,
> >>
> >> Goda
> >>
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a student:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How accessible is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How easy to master is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> >> in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF YES:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> >> and 2d.
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> >> formulae?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF NO:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> >> impaired into the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so
> how
> >> did they accommodate you?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you
> in
> >> the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> >> lectures/lessons?
> >> -
> >>
> >> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> >> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of
> what
> >> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a teacher:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> >> impaired students?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> >> encounter?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> >> preparation for the classes?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> >> students in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> >> might use?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d
> and
> >> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blindmath mailing list
> >> Blindmath at nfbnet.org
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:51:20 -0500
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sina at sinabahram.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID: <010701d1180b$b9b8d4e0$2d2a7ea0$@sinabahram.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I feel you may wish to examine the sentence with either a screen reader
> that you know how to use or with braille if that works for you.
>
> The "of course" was an exclamation, not a modifier of the sentence that
> followed. As in, Of course we'll answer these question for you, followed
> by, none of us are blind, etc. etc.
>
> let's now try to avoid the stereotypical 10 to 20 emails that will follow.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
> Company Website: http://www.pac.bz
> Personal Website: http://www.sinabahram.com
> Blog: http://blog.sinabahram.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sabra
> Ewing via Blindmath
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 3:41 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
>
> I really think you should have a blind student on your team. You say of
> course you don't have one as though you can't be expected to find one
> anywhere, but I bet one goes to your school, and that student may even be
> majoring in math or computer science I think you should work on a specific
> piece of technology that converts two dimensional objects including moving
> images into still or moving in three-dimensional images. You point the
> camera at the picture, and it robotic arms form the three-dimensional image
> out of clay or maybe the device can somehow fold into the image. Or if you
> could make a sheet portable 3-D printer, that would also be fine and you
> could scan the image in and it would printed out in three dimensions.
> However, the problem with 3-D printing now is that it is expensive and
> impractical to use.
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
> > On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Goda Biek?ait? via Blindmath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maureen,
> >
> > Of course! None of us are visually impaired and therefore we really want
> to
> > understand as much as we can.
> >
> > In regards of the the solutions and information that is already there we
> > have done quite a lot of research. As far as we have found, visually
> > impaired students use either tactile or audio oriented solutions. In
> > regards of text there's two choices - Braille or screen readers. As far
> as
> > we have seen Braille readers are rather expensive and entire books in
> > Braille are rare and difficult to obtain And therefore most people prefer
> > screen readers. JAWS, NVDA etc. More technologies we have looked into is
> > using sound and music to represent graphs and geometric objects,
> distances
> > and sizes, haptic feedback (like haptic mouse), magnifiers, sonic based
> > haptic representation of 3d objects (although a great idea it's currently
> > still in development), talking tactile tablet, raised paper, the
> chemistry
> > diagram translation into audible description. We also looked into
> possibly
> > using 3D printing to explain 3D objects.
> >
> > I'm sure I missed a few of them but we tried to find as much information
> as
> > we can. But we're not trying to create a new piece of technology as we
> know
> > that shifting from one piece of the tech that you are already using to a
> > complete new one can be difficult. But maybe we incorporate different
> bits
> > from different tech together? Or make something that is currently not
> > accessible with current tech that is used - accessible... Except we
> don't
> > know what people actually use. Finances, accessibility and situations are
> > different for all...
> >
> > Also thank you so much for such a rapid response! Really does mean a lot!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Goda
> > MSci Computer Science
> > 3d Year Student
> > University of Birmingham
> > 2015 lapkr. 5 15:38 "Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > ra??:
> >
> >> Before I answer this survey I would be interested to know if there are
> any
> >> blind and visually impaired students on the team? How familiar are you
> with
> >> what is already out there for the students to use? I often see research
> and
> >> development on the University level which develops things that are
> already
> >> out there. thanks
> >>
> >> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> >> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> >> Bethlehem Central School District
> >> Bethlehem High School
> >> 700 Delaware Ave
> >> Delmar, NY 12054
> >> http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> >> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience
> >> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired,
> and
> >> success achieved. Helen Keller
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Goda
> >> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:23 AM
> >> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >> Cc: Goda Biek?ait?; Lily Elshaktori; Priyanka Mohata; Gareth Humphries;
> >> Poppie Simmonds
> >> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of
> Birmingham.
> >> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> >> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real
> life
> >> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired
> students
> >> in a classroom setting.
> >>
> >> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with
> as
> >> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> >> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> >> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced
> and
> >> areas for improvement.
> >>
> >>
> >> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> >> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> >> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your
> experience
> >> - we would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >>
> >> We can't wait to hear from you,
> >>
> >> Goda
> >>
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a student:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How accessible is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How easy to master is it?
> >> -
> >>
> >> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive software
> >> in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF YES:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> >> and 2d.
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> >> formulae?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> >> -
> >>
> >> IF NO:
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> >> impaired into the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so
> how
> >> did they accommodate you?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you
> in
> >> the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> >> lectures/lessons?
> >> -
> >>
> >> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> >> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of
> what
> >> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
> >>
> >>
> >> If you?re a teacher:
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> >> impaired students?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> >> encounter?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> >> preparation for the classes?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually impaired
> >> students in the classroom?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the students
> >> might use?
> >> -
> >>
> >> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d
> and
> >> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> >> -
> >>
> >> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blindmath mailing list
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 19:29:25 -0500
> From: Laura Etori <letori.etori6 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more
> accessible
> Message-ID:
> <
> CAKrWiyLGkHytiLzhJKiYA9bRO0jzRH49drF3n6jwoHPChrEOFA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> hello everyone
>
> I am quite new to this list.
>
> i am an undergrad at Rutgers university Newark in new jersey, but i
> come from Kenya.
> i lost my sight 3years ago.
> i am a math major, but due to lack of resources and such info back at
> home everyone discouraged me from taking this course or even to enter
> the STEM field. i somehow knew it could be done and that's why i am
> here.
> am glad to find people who have done it here and i would like advice
> on what software and equipment i could use in my school work so that i
> could be successful.
>
> this could open many doors not only for me but also for many of my
> friends and many people back at home who were and are still being
> limited to certain courses.
>
> next sem i start off with college algebra since i am an international
> student.
> for the group doing the research i think i can help where possible.
>
> it would be great if the teachers and students in this group would help me
> out.
>
> thanks.
>
> On 11/5/15, Sina Bahram via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I feel you may wish to examine the sentence with either a screen reader
> that
> > you know how to use or with braille if that works for you.
> >
> > The "of course" was an exclamation, not a modifier of the sentence that
> > followed. As in, Of course we'll answer these question for you, followed
> by,
> > none of us are blind, etc. etc.
> >
> > let's now try to avoid the stereotypical 10 to 20 emails that will
> follow.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> >
> > President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
> > Twitter: @SinaBahram
> > Company Website: http://www.pac.bz
> > Personal Website: http://www.sinabahram.com
> > Blog: http://blog.sinabahram.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sabra
> > Ewing via Blindmath
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 3:41 PM
> > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >
> > I really think you should have a blind student on your team. You say of
> > course you don't have one as though you can't be expected to find one
> > anywhere, but I bet one goes to your school, and that student may even be
> > majoring in math or computer science I think you should work on a
> specific
> > piece of technology that converts two dimensional objects including
> moving
> > images into still or moving in three-dimensional images. You point the
> > camera at the picture, and it robotic arms form the three-dimensional
> image
> > out of clay or maybe the device can somehow fold into the image. Or if
> you
> > could make a sheet portable 3-D printer, that would also be fine and you
> > could scan the image in and it would printed out in three dimensions.
> > However, the problem with 3-D printing now is that it is expensive and
> > impractical to use.
> >
> > Sabra Ewing
> >
> >> On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Goda Biek?ait? via Blindmath
> >> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Maureen,
> >>
> >> Of course! None of us are visually impaired and therefore we really want
> >> to
> >> understand as much as we can.
> >>
> >> In regards of the the solutions and information that is already there we
> >> have done quite a lot of research. As far as we have found, visually
> >> impaired students use either tactile or audio oriented solutions. In
> >> regards of text there's two choices - Braille or screen readers. As far
> as
> >> we have seen Braille readers are rather expensive and entire books in
> >> Braille are rare and difficult to obtain And therefore most people
> prefer
> >> screen readers. JAWS, NVDA etc. More technologies we have looked into is
> >> using sound and music to represent graphs and geometric objects,
> distances
> >> and sizes, haptic feedback (like haptic mouse), magnifiers, sonic based
> >> haptic representation of 3d objects (although a great idea it's
> currently
> >> still in development), talking tactile tablet, raised paper, the
> chemistry
> >> diagram translation into audible description. We also looked into
> possibly
> >> using 3D printing to explain 3D objects.
> >>
> >> I'm sure I missed a few of them but we tried to find as much information
> >> as
> >> we can. But we're not trying to create a new piece of technology as we
> >> know
> >> that shifting from one piece of the tech that you are already using to a
> >> complete new one can be difficult. But maybe we incorporate different
> bits
> >> from different tech together? Or make something that is currently not
> >> accessible with current tech that is used - accessible... Except we
> don't
> >> know what people actually use. Finances, accessibility and situations
> are
> >> different for all...
> >>
> >> Also thank you so much for such a rapid response! Really does mean a
> lot!
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Goda
> >> MSci Computer Science
> >> 3d Year Student
> >> University of Birmingham
> >> 2015 lapkr. 5 15:38 "Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath"
> >> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> >> ra??:
> >>
> >>> Before I answer this survey I would be interested to know if there are
> >>> any
> >>> blind and visually impaired students on the team? How familiar are you
> >>> with
> >>> what is already out there for the students to use? I often see research
> >>> and
> >>> development on the University level which develops things that are
> >>> already
> >>> out there. thanks
> >>>
> >>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
> >>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> >>> Bethlehem Central School District
> >>> Bethlehem High School
> >>> 700 Delaware Ave
> >>> Delmar, NY 12054
> >>> http://www.bethlehemschools.org
> >>> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through
> experience
> >>> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired,
> >>> and
> >>> success achieved. Helen Keller
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Goda
> >>> Biek?aite via Blindmath
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:23 AM
> >>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >>> Cc: Goda Biek?ait?; Lily Elshaktori; Priyanka Mohata; Gareth Humphries;
> >>> Poppie Simmonds
> >>> Subject: [Blindmath] Making the University classroom more accessible
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We are 3rd year Computer Science students at the University of
> >>> Birmingham.
> >>> As part of our course, we are studying a module called Software Design
> >>> Study, in which we research and design a solution to an existing real
> >>> life
> >>> problem. Our team is looking into further aiding visually impaired
> >>> students
> >>> in a classroom setting.
> >>>
> >>> We are in the early stages of our research and would like to speak with
> >>> as
> >>> many visually impaired students, teachers of the visually impaired or
> >>> anyone else who works in this area.We would like to get a better
> >>> understanding of learning and teaching techniques used, problems faced
> >>> and
> >>> areas for improvement.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We have made a questionnaire and it would help us greatly if you could
> >>> answer some or all of the questions, and if there is anything that you
> >>> would like to add, or even if you would just want to share your
> >>> experience
> >>> - we would really appreciate it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We can't wait to hear from you,
> >>>
> >>> Goda
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Questions:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you?re a student:
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What software are you using in the classroom currently?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> How accessible is it?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> How easy to master is it?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> On average, how much time do you spend using the assistive
> software
> >>> in the classroom?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Did you go to a school or university for visually impaired?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> IF YES:
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What techniques did they use to teach mathematics?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> How did they explain the different geometrical objects? Both 3d
> >>> and 2d.
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> How did they explain graphs and visual representations of
> >>> formulae?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What techniques are used to draw and represent graphs?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> IF NO:
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What techniques did the teachers use to integrate visually
> >>> impaired into the classroom?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Did the teachers write and explain things on the board, if so
> how
> >>> did they accommodate you?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Did you have anyone or use any special technology to assist you
> >>> in
> >>> the classroom?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Was there anything that you think you missed out in the
> >>> lectures/lessons?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> If you could change one thing about how the lectures are going at the
> >>> moment and the support that you get - what would it be?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What would be a perfect piece of technology for you (regardless of
> what
> >>> has been created already. Please. Go wild)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you?re a teacher:
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What techniques have you used to better accommodate the visually
> >>> impaired students?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What difficulties have you noticed that visually impaired students
> >>> encounter?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What subjects and areas do the students struggle the most?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What support systems/technologies do you use in your classroom or for
> >>> preparation for the classes?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What additional preparation do you make to cater for visually
> impaired
> >>> students in the classroom?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> How familiar are you with the assistive technologies that the
> students
> >>> might use?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> How did you explain (if you ever had to) graphs, geometric forms, 3d
> >>> and
> >>> 2d objects, trajectories and distances?
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> What support do you get from your University or School/College?
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Blindmath mailing list
> >>> Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> Blindmath:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/mlewicki%40bcsd.neric.org
> >>> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> >>> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Blindmath mailing list
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> >>> Blindmath:
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> >>>
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> >>> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> >>> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blindmath mailing list
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> >> BlindMath Gems can be found at
> >> <http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blindmath mailing list
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> > BlindMath Gems can be found at
> > <http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > BlindMath Gems can be found at
> > <http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
> >
>
>
> --
> Kind regards
> Laura Etori
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 22:17:09 -0500
> From: Greg Williams <greg.williams.1978 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Blindmath] Copying MathPlayer output
> Message-ID: <563C1BB5.5090301 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi,
> I am using MathPlayer with Firefox and NVDA currently. I need to copy
> passages from a webpage containing MathML and edit them. What I would
> like is to be able to copy and paste the text including the MathPlayer
> generated output that NVDA reads, but I have not found a way to do this
> using the normal select methods or the NVDA+F9 and NVDA+F10 method. Does
> anyone know of a method of doing this either with NVDA or another screen
> reader? I have also tried opening the xhtml files directly in word, but
> that is not a pretty sight at all. Thanks.
> Greg
>
>
>
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