[Blindmath] Write maths whithout braille

Fri Dec 16 18:32:48 UTC 2016

Hi Neil and others,

thank you for your advice, that works well and useful.

I bought math type after this test.

But the shortkey Alt+\ is not compatible with french keyboard.

When I would like typing just "\", I must press : Alt+Ctrl+8!

on the other hand, I can use the very long shortkey : Alt+y, 2, y, j.

Thanks,

Mathieu

Le 16/12/2016 à 02:22, Neil Soiffer via Blindmath a écrit :

> You can use Word+NVDA+MathPlayer+MathType to author and read math if you
> are willing to learn the math component of LaTeX. If you already have a
> document with math in it, then the above combination will work for *reading
> *and navigating the math by speech. If you want to author math, then in
> Word you can type in some LaTeX between $ $ and use MathType to convert
> that into MathType math (so it looks nice), which can then be spoken and
> navigated. Given that it is easy to make a mistake in LaTeX, hearing the
> math gives you a way to know that you have typed it correctly. If you
> didn't, then you covert it back into LaTeX and edit it and listen again.
>
> FYI: changing between LaTeX and vice-versa is done with "Toggle TeX" which
> has the keyboard shortcut alt+\. As the name "Toggle" implies, alt+\ will
> also change the MathType equation back to TeX.
>
> Here is a concrete example, if you want to write "the integral from 0 to 10
> of x times e to the negative 2x power, d x", you would type into Word:
> $\int_0^{10} x e^{-2 x} dx$ alt+\
>
> Press left arrow to move before the math to make NVDA read the math to you.
> If you made a mistake, type alt+\ and move right to edit the LaTeX.
>
> FYI: when I initially typed the example, I made a common TeX error of not
> putting the "10" inside of {}s. Be careful to add braces to any subscript
> or superscript that is more than one character.
>
> Neil Soiffer
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Bill Dengler via Blindmath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> LaTeX is a file format.
>> You write the entire document in LaTex, math expressions that appear
>> inline are surrounded by dollar signs.
>> See the following LaTeX tutorial: https://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX <
>> https://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX>
>>
>> Bill
>>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mathieu Barbe via Blindmath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Bill and others,
>>>
>>> thank you for your advices.
>>>
>>>
>>> The level of math that I'm going to use is relatively high.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think plain text is not enough for me!
>>>
>>>
>>> How you write LaTeX?
>>> Do you write whole document in LaTeX or just the section containing math?
>>>
>>> How you convert LaTeX math in mathML or an others accessible document?
>>>
>>> thank you for your precious help
>>>
>>> Regards, Mathieu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 09/12/2016 à 15:33, Bill Dengler a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Depending on the level of math you want to write and how necessary it
>> is for sighted people to be able to read your work, there are a few ways:
>>>> What I call “calculator notation”: write your math, line-by-line, using
>> the symbols of a standard scientific calculator in a plain-text editor or
>> word processor. Use + for addition, - for subtraction, * for
>> multiplication, / for division, ^ for exponentiation, and standard
>> brackets, braces and parentheses. Write fractions with parentheses around
>> the numerator and denominator and a / for the fraction line. Write sqrt for
>> square root, 3rt for cube root, nrt for nth root.
>>>> You can invent any other symbols you need; use scientific calculator
>> conventions as a guide.
>>>> This method works for scratch work and lower level math, but begins to
>> break down around pre-calculus.
>>>> If the level of math is complex or readability by the sighted is
>> important, use LaTeX. Not only can it be easily converted to PDF or Math
>> ML, it is far less ambiguous than calculator notation; all symbols are
>> clearly defined.
>>>> Bill
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Mathieu Barbe via Blindmath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi folk,
>>>>> I'm a new French user on this list.
>>>>> I am a visually impaired person and a future student.
>>>>>
>>>>> I looking for a solution to read and write math without braille, I
>> would like to use only sound feedback to read and my keyboard to write.
>>>>> currently, I only found solution to read maths write in mathML
>> language.
>>>>> I use internet explorer, mathplayer and Nvda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to read directly math in microsoft word?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any tips to write math?
>>>>> LaTeX, MathType or or others?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>>> regards, Mathieu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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