[Blindmath] Techniques for taking Algebra through Calculus?

Thu Mar 10 19:54:44 UTC 2016

Sir John,

I have LEANMath7 beta here.  If you have latest version than this, may
you give me a copy?  I find LEANMath as very accessible tool in
writing math equation in word specially for those who do not know
LaTeX syntax.  I am glad that you still improving LEANMath.

Regards,

Allan

On 3/8/16, John Gardner via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all, a few words about LEAN Math
>
> It has been some time since I released the last beta of LEAN, because I was
> finding the original architecture to be nearly impossible to repair and
> maintain. I have totally rewritten LEAN, making it much more robust. I am
> not a very competent software developer, and unfortunately it was pretty
> evident in LEAN I. The new version has been working well for months in
> audio, but I have some problems making the right information show on braille
> displays. I am hindered because I am not a good braille reader myself and
> don't usually use a braille display. However if there are people who would
> like to use it in audio, I would be happy to put it up for download.
>
> For those of you who don't know LEAN, it is an efficient way for blind
> people to write math, and it includes a number of nice little functions that
> help you when you are solving algebraic equations. LEAN presently works only
> with the MathType application in MS Word, so you would need MS Word and
> MathType (available from dessci.com). LEAN creates standard MathType
> equations, so its output is completely mainstream. It can be used to read
> math in MS Word, but there are lots of ways now to read math in MS Word, so
> please regard LEAN as a way to write math. There are not very many ways to
> write math as you know. LEAN will be a free application for blind end users.
> ViewPlus will eventually put LEAN on the market and sell it and support
> packages at modest cost to institutions.
>
> John Gardner
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Allan
> Mesoga via Blindmath
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 12:14 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Allan Mesoga <allan.mesoga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Techniques for taking Algebra through Calculus?
>
> You can use LEANMath accessible math editor of ViewPlus to write and create
> accessible math documents with MSWord and MathType.  You can contact Sir
> John Gardner about LEANMath.
>
> On 3/2/16, Ken Perry via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Yes on AP exams it is one test where CAS is allowed.  Of course you
>> might be sorry you have It the way they want you to show both how you
>> set the problem up and sometimes they will ask you why you did what
>> you did and if you are relying on your calculator too much you will even
>> have more problems.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Sean Tikkun via Blindmath
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 6:30 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sean Tikkun <jaquis at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Techniques for taking Algebra through Calculus?
>>
>> But again, returning tot he quote I posted. It’s allowed on AP exams.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Ken Perry via Blindmath
>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> No not all TI calculators are CAS devices. There are actually cas
>>> versions of TI-84 and Nspire but not all of them are CAS based.  For
>>> example if you do an derivative or integral or even square roots on
>>> TI-84 without a special program on the TI-84 you get a number not a
>>> text answer.  The cas system would give you the reduced text answer
>>> not a number.  See this
>>> page:
>>>
>>> https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-CAS-graphing-c
>>> a lculator-and-a-non-CAS-graphing-calculator
>>> <https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-CAS-graphing-
>>> c
>>> alculator-and-a-non-CAS-graphing-calculator>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> <mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Sean Tikkun via
>>> Blindmath
>>> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>> Cc: Sean Tikkun <jaquis at mac.com <mailto:jaquis at mac.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Techniques for taking Algebra through Calculus?
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, I’m suggesting that a student who is blind write
>>> their work using CAS markup. Regarding standard tests… It is true a
>>> student can not use a programable or graphing calculator on ACT, SAT,
>>> and GRE. The mathematics level of the GRE is actually lower than the
>>> ACT and SAT. My understanding is that it is far less reliable that a
>>> student has taken a math class within the last 3 years and as such
>>> the work does not go beyond College Algebra/Algebra 2.
>>>
>>> However, I think a TI-80 or higher calculator would be considered a
>>> CAS device, which is allowed on AP exams these days. They weren’t
>>> when I took my Calculus AP, and I was rather indignant when I found
>>> out they are! I’d draw your attention to the below quote found at:
>>> https://apstudent.collegeboard.org/apcourse/ap-calculus-ab/calculator
>>> -
>>> policy
>>>
>>> "Calculator memories will not be cleared. Students are allowed to
>>> bring to the exam calculators containing whatever programs they want.
>>> Students must not use calculator memories to take test materials out of
>>> the room.
>>> Students that attempt to remove test materials from the room by any
>>> method will have their exam grades invalidated."
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Ken Perry <kperry at blinksoft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> CAS can't be used on standard tests and neither can programming
>>>> languages that do your work for you.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> <mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Sean Tikkun via
>>>> Blindmath
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 12:30 PM
>>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>>> Cc: Sean Tikkun <jaquis at mac.com <mailto:jaquis at mac.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Techniques for taking Algebra through
>>>> Calculus?
>>>>
>>>> Doing Math with a programing language, from my point of view is
>>>> doable, always has been. The modules are just sub-programs that
>>>> execute certain functions and algorithms. I believe some of my early
>>>> programs in Basic on an Apple II did my homework for me. Later
>>>> Mathematica did the same service when I was in College. When working
>>>> as a TVI I taught a High School student who read braille the
>>>> language and he completed his work using the Wolfram-Alpha langauge
>>>> (almost identical markup as Mathematica) to make graphs and check his
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> There are very strong Computer Algebra Systems (CAS) that are used
>>>> by mathematicians and present all output on a single line (as we
>>>> want it to in
>>>> braille!) Not sure why the braille community has never moved towards
>>>> CAS markup since all math teachers and mathematicians already
>>>> recognize it. Also would be little to no backwards translation issues.
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 26, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Jamal Mazrui via Blindmath
>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently read a couple of books that lead me to believe that
>>>>> algebra, calculus, and statistics may all be done with the Python
>>>>> programming language and science-related modules.  The titles,
>>>>> which a web search will find, are "Doing Math with Python" and "Think
>>>>> Stats."
>>>>> Rather than the default Python shell, a more sophisticated one
>>>>> called IPython is recommended, available at www.ipython.org
>>>>> <http://www.ipython.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamal
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> <mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith
>>>>> Biggs via Blindmath
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:43 PM
>>>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>>
>>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] Techniques for taking Algebra through Calculus?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I am looking for some ways my student can use to take Algebra
>>>>> through calculus that does not require a significant investment of
>>>>> time to get up and running.
>>>>> I know about Latex, but from what I have seen, it takes quite a bit
>>>>> of time to learn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nemeth does not work because my student does not know Braille.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only other option I can think of is having a tutor there,
>>>>> writing out in huge letters, or using manipulatives to explain the
>>>>> concepts.
>>>>> I did this going through Statistics, but it was not fun and
>>>>> currently the student has not had much success with this method.
>>>>>
>>>>> The accessibility person has suggested something using math ML may
>>>>> work.
>>>>> Has anyone worked with math ML before?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
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