[BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math

[White, Jason J]

So far as I know, braille displays with multiple lines of text do not exist (except perhaps as research prototypes). As I recall, Pappenmeier used to have (and perhaps still sell) displays with vertical components offering a small number of cells that can serve to provide navigation support, but they're not full lines of text that can be used for reading.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek
> Scott Riemer via BlindMath
> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 12:08 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Derek Scott Riemer <Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu>; John Gardner
> <gardnerj at oregonstate.edu>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less
> Visual Math
>
> No screen reader on the market knows how to work with multiple line braille
> displays as of this time.
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John Gardner via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I am unaware of any braille displays with more than one line. Do
> > you have references? One word of caution. Having multiple lines is
> > useful only if the software displays information the way it needs to
> > be displayed semantically. This is not at all automatic, so even if
> > you spent a lot of money to purchase a multiple-line display, it could
> > be not very useful if the lines are not properly aligned. I don't even
> > know how to ask the right questions to find out.
> >
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > Nicholas J via BlindMath
> > Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 12:33 PM
> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Nicholas J <314nick15 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to
> > Less Visual Math
> >
> > Thank you to everyone for all the help. I was looking at different
> > braille displays and saw some that are one, two, three, or four lines.
> > How many lines would be the best for statistics? I was told before
> > that one line may not be enough for proofs or long problems that would
> > need different parts to be seen at once. I wasn't sure if even two,
> > three, or four is enough, but it seems like there is the choice for
> > only one through four lines. How good will I need to be in braille before I can
> use it for statistics?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Nicholas
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Nicholas J <314nick15 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I’m considering doing a Master’s in statistics, but I do not want to
> > > go back to the technology that I used before. I used a cctv to view
> > > the board and zoomtext as a screen magnifier. All the cctvs I have
> > > used have still left me not able to see what was happening in most
> > > of my classes before and zoomtext made things slower for me because
> > > of so much magnification. Right now I am transitioning to using Jaws
> > > for the computer, but I am not sure what to do for things like the
> > > boards in classes, writing, and things like that. I don’t write
> > > notes because I am slow at it since I have to write big and I
> > > usually still can’t understand what I wrote because of how quickly I
> > > wrote it and how unreadable it is. I have been looking at doing
> > > things in braille, but am not sure if that is the best way to go. I
> > > thought it might take a lot of time also to learn it. I still think
> > > it may be helpful in some situations (maybe graphics which I could
> > > almost never discern correctly the more complicated they got). I
> > > have been reading through all the posts here about latex and having
> > > Jaws read them and other kinds of technologies, but I am not sure
> > > what kinds of technology are best for the transition of doing
> > > everything visually to doing things less visually. My vision has
> > > always stayed the same, but the field I am
> > working in is statistics and it gets very small and specific for
> > notation and everything.
> > > Main Question: What technology and how can I do math more
> > > electronically and less visually? I am learning Jaws, braille, and
> > Kurzweil.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Nicholas
> > >
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