[BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math

Mon Apr 3 18:55:31 UTC 2017

Hi,

here is a Link to "Hyperbraille":

http://www.hyperbraille.de/?lang=en

I hope it helps

Kind regards

Niels

2017-04-03 18:13 GMT+02:00, White, Jason J via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>:
> So far as I know, braille displays with multiple lines of text do not exist
> (except perhaps as research prototypes). As I recall, Pappenmeier used to
> have (and perhaps still sell) displays with vertical components offering a
> small number of cells that can serve to provide navigation support, but
> they're not full lines of text that can be used for reading.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek
>> Scott Riemer via BlindMath
>> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 12:08 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Derek Scott Riemer <Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu>; John Gardner
>> <gardnerj at oregonstate.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to
>> Less
>> Visual Math
>>
>> No screen reader on the market knows how to work with multiple line
>> braille
>> displays as of this time.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John Gardner via BlindMath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, I am unaware of any braille displays with more than one line. Do
>> > you have references? One word of caution. Having multiple lines is
>> > useful only if the software displays information the way it needs to
>> > be displayed semantically. This is not at all automatic, so even if
>> > you spent a lot of money to purchase a multiple-line display, it could
>> > be not very useful if the lines are not properly aligned. I don't even
>> > know how to ask the right questions to find out.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> > Nicholas J via BlindMath
>> > Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 12:33 PM
>> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> > Cc: Nicholas J <314nick15 at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to
>> > Less Visual Math
>> >
>> > Thank you to everyone for all the help. I was looking at different
>> > braille displays and saw some that are one, two, three, or four lines.
>> > How many lines would be the best for statistics? I was told before
>> > that one line may not be enough for proofs or long problems that would
>> > need different parts to be seen at once. I wasn't sure if even two,
>> > three, or four is enough, but it seems like there is the choice for
>> > only one through four lines. How good will I need to be in braille
>> > before I can
>> use it for statistics?
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Nicholas
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Nicholas J <314nick15 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > I’m considering doing a Master’s in statistics, but I do not want to
>> > > go back to the technology that I used before. I used a cctv to view
>> > > the board and zoomtext as a screen magnifier. All the cctvs I have
>> > > used have still left me not able to see what was happening in most
>> > > of my classes before and zoomtext made things slower for me because
>> > > of so much magnification. Right now I am transitioning to using Jaws
>> > > for the computer, but I am not sure what to do for things like the
>> > > boards in classes, writing, and things like that. I don’t write
>> > > notes because I am slow at it since I have to write big and I
>> > > usually still can’t understand what I wrote because of how quickly I
>> > > wrote it and how unreadable it is. I have been looking at doing
>> > > things in braille, but am not sure if that is the best way to go. I
>> > > thought it might take a lot of time also to learn it. I still think
>> > > it may be helpful in some situations (maybe graphics which I could
>> > > almost never discern correctly the more complicated they got). I
>> > > have been reading through all the posts here about latex and having
>> > > Jaws read them and other kinds of technologies, but I am not sure
>> > > what kinds of technology are best for the transition of doing
>> > > everything visually to doing things less visually. My vision has
>> > > always stayed the same, but the field I am
>> > working in is statistics and it gets very small and specific for
>> > notation and everything.
>> > > Main Question: What technology and how can I do math more
>> > > electronically and less visually? I am learning Jaws, braille, and
>> > Kurzweil.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thank you,
>> > >
>> > > Nicholas
>> > >
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