[Blindmath] {Spam?} Re: math type accessibility with jaws screen reader,

Sun Feb 26 21:04:46 UTC 2017

Hi Doug,

I borrow the document I sent the list from another person.  I did not write
it, and I can't answer questions on its syntax.  I am just starting to learn
Latex and MathType.

I do not know if it matters, but I am a JAWS user.

I was able to turn the equation image into Latex and back to an image by
using alt+\.  When I was looking at the Latex version of the equation, I
moved the cursor onto the first $ and hit alt+\, and the equation turned
back into an image.  I am using Office 2016, JAWS 18, and MathType 6.9.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net

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reader, 

Good day Louis,

I'm new to TeX and LaTeX and found your message very helpful.  I didn't know
that TeX is the underlying language for MathType.  Also, it took me a while
to discover that alt+\ is alt+[backslash] because NVDA doesn't read the
character unless I single-step through it.  After reading your example
document, I opened, in current versions of Word, MathType and MathPlayer, a
document I'd written several years ago inold versions of Word and MathType. 
The alt+\ brought out the underlying TeX, but it wouldn't convert back.  In
your example and my old document, exponents are heavily braced, even when
there is only one character.  Why is this?  In your e-mail integral example
it seems you got away with minimal bracing.  The letter "n" seems to be used
as a filler in multi-line equations.  Can yoou recommend a reference for
math type-setting in TeX or LaTeX?  Thanks.

Regards,
Doug Miron

-----Original Message----- 
    From: Louis Maher via Blindmath
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:05 PM
To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
Cc: Louis Maher ; 'tolga karatas'
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] math type accessibility with jaws screen reader,

Hello Tolga,

If you are willing to learn LaTex, MathType is accessible for the blind with
JAWS.  Here is a message I received from Neil Soiffer (I do not have a
current e-mail address for Neil).  Note that while he talks about NVDA,
MathTypes works well in JAWS.

I do not think you need MathPlayer in JAWS.
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"You can use Word+NVDA+MathPlayer+MathType to author and read math if you
are willing to learn the math component of LaTeX. If you already have a
document with math in it, then the above combination will work for *reading
*and navigating the math by speech. If you want to author math, then in Word
you can type in some LaTeX between $ $ and use MathType to convert that into
MathType math (so it looks nice), which can then be spoken and navigated.
Given that it is easy to make a mistake in LaTeX, hearing the math gives you
a way to know that you have typed it correctly. If you didn't, then you
convert it back into LaTeX and edit it and listen again.

FYI: changing between LaTeX and vice-versa is done with ""Toggle TeX"" which
has the keyboard shortcut alt+\. As the name ""Toggle"" implies, alt+\ will
also change the MathType equation back to TeX.

Here is a concrete example, if you want to write ""the integral from 0 to 10
of x times e to the negative 2x power, d x"", you would type into Word:
$\int_0^{10} x e^{-2 x} dx$ alt+\

Press left arrow to move before the math to make NVDA read the math to you.
If you made a mistake, type alt+\ and move right to edit the LaTeX.

FYI: when I initially typed the example, I made a common TeX error of not
putting the ""10"" inside of {}s. Be careful to add braces to any subscript
or superscript that is more than one character.

Neil Soiffer
Use insert equations to start entering an equation.

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If you are on the image of an equation, you type alt+backslash and the
equation will be converted to LaTex, and you can read and change it.

I have attached an example file to try this.

I am just beginning to learn this.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net

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Subject: [Blindmath] math type accessibility with jaws screen reader,

Dear Sir/madam,

I am a visually impaired studying a  degree in BSC Business Information
technology:

I would like to use Math Type with a screen reader called Jaws, but jaws
isn't user friendly with math type due to LaTEX not being user friendly
either, how can I over come this challenge please? I really want to use math
type with Jaws Screen reader, however, the accessibility is not their.

Can someone advise me as to how I can solve this problem/challenge please?

Yours Faithfully,

Tolga Karatas

I am a blind student studying BSC Business Information Technology.

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