[BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 132, Issue 8

Sun Jul 16 11:33:20 UTC 2017

Lucas;

I also tbink this is a great idea!

Regards;

Tolga;

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>    3. Re: help with website name (Cassie Kilroy Thompson)
>    4. Re: help with website name (Frankel, Lois E)
>    5. Re: help with website name (?ukasz Grabowski)
>    6. Re: Engineering Tools Accessibility (Shawn Berg)
>    7. Re: help with website name (Zach)
>    8. Re: help with website name (Brandon Keith Biggs)
>    9. Re: help with website name (John Gardner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:05:37 +0100
> From: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
> To: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [BlindMath] help with website name
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> Hi all,
>
> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired STEM
> students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to
> open-source software which are specifically designed for visually
> impaired people (in case you're interested what's the service about, I
> describe it briefly below, but it's an early stage).
>
> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose
> Blind Monad.
>
> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check
> with target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-)
> It's somewhat inspired by the name of this group.
>
> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called
> category theory monad is something which in particular describes
> interactions. Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which
> can be used for description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me
> it's a bad name because noone will know what is a monad. I get the
> point but perhaps on the other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>
>
>
> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with
> this idea after a recent private conversation with another group member
> Zach - it was clear that the problem he had, producing a diagram of a
> biochemical reaction, can be fairly easily solved by using open-source
> software. But the problem is having access to linux, configuring orca
> or other linux screen reader correctly, learning to interact with
> compilers, etc.
>
> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based
> front-end, and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time and
> resources into configuring their own computer. The kind of things I
> want to provide access to are e.g. latex and latexml, python, octave
> (clone of matlab), DOT language for graphs, etc. plus "tailor-made"
> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I
> say "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way how
> they would prefer to interact with the website to solve a concrete
> problem (e.g. producing a diagram of a biochemical reaction), and then
> we work together to come up with an efficient interface.
>
> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's
> probably not much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather
> introduce you to a technology in a most efficient fashion and
> encourage to explore it on your own (perhaps on your own
> computer). At a later stage I would perhaps also like to offer 1-1
> "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave, etc. but will see where it goes.
>
> Best,
> Lukasz
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:07:43 +0000
> From: "Martin, Vincent F" <vincent.martin at gatech.edu>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
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> I think this is a great idea!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lukasz
> Grabowski via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:06 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
> Subject: [BlindMath] help with website name
>
> Hi all,
>
> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired STEM
> students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to open-source
> software which are specifically designed for visually impaired people (in
> case you're interested what's the service about, I describe it briefly
> below, but it's an early stage).
>
> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose Blind
> Monad.
>
> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check with
> target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-) It's somewhat
> inspired by the name of this group.
>
> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called category
> theory monad is something which in particular describes interactions.
> Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which can be used for
> description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me it's a bad name
> because noone will know what is a monad. I get the point but perhaps on the
> other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>
>
>
> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with this idea
> after a recent private conversation with another group member Zach - it was
> clear that the problem he had, producing a diagram of a biochemical
> reaction, can be fairly easily solved by using open-source software. But the
> problem is having access to linux, configuring orca or other linux screen
> reader correctly, learning to interact with compilers, etc.
>
> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based front-end,
> and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time and resources into
> configuring their own computer. The kind of things I want to provide access
> to are e.g. latex and latexml, python, octave (clone of matlab), DOT
> language for graphs, etc. plus "tailor-made"
> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I say
> "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way how they
> would prefer to interact with the website to solve a concrete problem (e.g.
> producing a diagram of a biochemical reaction), and then we work together to
> come up with an efficient interface.
>
> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's probably not
> much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather introduce you
> to a technology in a most efficient fashion and encourage to explore it on
> your own (perhaps on your own computer). At a later stage I would perhaps
> also like to offer 1-1 "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave, etc. but will
> see where it goes.
>
> Best,
> Lukasz
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 13:22:37 -0400
> From: Cassie Kilroy Thompson <mthomps2 at umbc.edu>
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> Lukas, if I understand you correctly, you are talking about creating a
> virtual desktop environment configured with the things that others need to
> access.  Is that correct?  While I am not a blind user, it sounds like a
> terrific idea.
>
> As to the name, monad means different things in different jargon worlds.
> It can refer to chromosomes, to philosophy, to interactions, and to
> category theory, among others.  So monad might be too ambiguous.
>
> ~~Cassie
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> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:05 AM, ?ukasz Grabowski via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired STEM
>> students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to
>> open-source software which are specifically designed for visually
>> impaired people (in case you're interested what's the service about, I
>> describe it briefly below, but it's an early stage).
>>
>> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose
>> Blind Monad.
>>
>> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check
>> with target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-)
>> It's somewhat inspired by the name of this group.
>>
>> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called
>> category theory monad is something which in particular describes
>> interactions. Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which
>> can be used for description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me
>> it's a bad name because noone will know what is a monad. I get the
>> point but perhaps on the other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with
>> this idea after a recent private conversation with another group member
>> Zach - it was clear that the problem he had, producing a diagram of a
>> biochemical reaction, can be fairly easily solved by using open-source
>> software. But the problem is having access to linux, configuring orca
>> or other linux screen reader correctly, learning to interact with
>> compilers, etc.
>>
>> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based
>> front-end, and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time and
>> resources into configuring their own computer. The kind of things I
>> want to provide access to are e.g. latex and latexml, python, octave
>> (clone of matlab), DOT language for graphs, etc. plus "tailor-made"
>> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I
>> say "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way how
>> they would prefer to interact with the website to solve a concrete
>> problem (e.g. producing a diagram of a biochemical reaction), and then
>> we work together to come up with an efficient interface.
>>
>> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's
>> probably not much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
>> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather
>> introduce you to a technology in a most efficient fashion and
>> encourage to explore it on your own (perhaps on your own
>> computer). At a later stage I would perhaps also like to offer 1-1
>> "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave, etc. but will see where it goes.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lukasz
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:26:33 +0000
> From: "Frankel, Lois E" <lfrankel at ETS.ORG>
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> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
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> As a former Leibniz scholar, I always associate the term "monad" with his
> metaphysical theories (see for example the Monadology).
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lukasz
> Grabowski via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:06 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
> Subject: [BlindMath] help with website name
>
> Hi all,
>
> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired STEM
> students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to open-source
> software which are specifically designed for visually impaired people (in
> case you're interested what's the service about, I describe it briefly
> below, but it's an early stage).
>
> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose Blind
> Monad.
>
> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check with
> target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-) It's somewhat
> inspired by the name of this group.
>
> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called category
> theory monad is something which in particular describes interactions.
> Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which can be used for
> description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me it's a bad name
> because noone will know what is a monad. I get the point but perhaps on the
> other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>
>
>
> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with this idea
> after a recent private conversation with another group member Zach - it was
> clear that the problem he had, producing a diagram of a biochemical
> reaction, can be fairly easily solved by using open-source software. But the
> problem is having access to linux, configuring orca or other linux screen
> reader correctly, learning to interact with compilers, etc.
>
> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based front-end,
> and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time and resources into
> configuring their own computer. The kind of things I want to provide access
> to are e.g. latex and latexml, python, octave (clone of matlab), DOT
> language for graphs, etc. plus "tailor-made"
> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I say
> "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way how they
> would prefer to interact with the website to solve a concrete problem (e.g.
> producing a diagram of a biochemical reaction), and then we work together to
> come up with an efficient interface.
>
> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's probably not
> much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather introduce you
> to a technology in a most efficient fashion and encourage to explore it on
> your own (perhaps on your own computer). At a later stage I would perhaps
> also like to offer 1-1 "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave, etc. but will
> see where it goes.
>
> Best,
> Lukasz
>
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> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:29:33 +0100
> From: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
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> "Monadology" was my first choice (ain't it clever? The website is
> essentialyl about creating good interfaces, i.e. monads, for one of the
> meaning of "monad"). Unfortunately monadology.com is not available :-(.
> But I guess the prevailing opinion is that "Blind Monad" is confusing,
> not interesting. It's hard to let it go, but probably I'll go back to
> the drawing board.
>
> L
>
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:26:33 +0000
> "Frankel, Lois E via BlindMath" <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> As a former Leibniz scholar, I always associate the term "monad" with
>> his metaphysical theories (see for example the Monadology).
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Lois Frankel, Ph.D.
>> Assessment Specialist IV, Assessment Development
>> Educational Testing Service
>> Mail Stop 14-N   Room N157  609-683-2985
>> lfrankel at ets.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Lukasz Grabowski via BlindMath Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:06 AM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [BlindMath] help with website name
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired
>> STEM students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to
>> open-source software which are specifically designed for visually
>> impaired people (in case you're interested what's the service about,
>> I describe it briefly below, but it's an early stage).
>>
>> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose
>> Blind Monad.
>>
>> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check
>> with target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-)
>> It's somewhat inspired by the name of this group.
>
>
>>
>> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called
>> category theory monad is something which in particular describes
>> interactions. Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which
>> can be used for description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me
>> it's a bad name because noone will know what is a monad. I get the
>> point but perhaps on the other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with
>> this idea after a recent private conversation with another group
>> member Zach - it was clear that the problem he had, producing a
>> diagram of a biochemical reaction, can be fairly easily solved by
>> using open-source software. But the problem is having access to
>> linux, configuring orca or other linux screen reader correctly,
>> learning to interact with compilers, etc.
>>
>> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based
>> front-end, and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time
>> and resources into configuring their own computer. The kind of things
>> I want to provide access to are e.g. latex and latexml, python,
>> octave (clone of matlab), DOT language for graphs, etc. plus
>> "tailor-made" interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem
>> quickly. When I say "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would
>> describe the way how they would prefer to interact with the website
>> to solve a concrete problem (e.g. producing a diagram of a
>> biochemical reaction), and then we work together to come up with an
>> efficient interface.
>>
>> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's probably
>> not much in the above which you couldn't do yourself. Also the
>> service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather introduce you to
>> a technology in a most efficient fashion and encourage to explore it
>> on your own (perhaps on your own computer). At a later stage I would
>> perhaps also like to offer 1-1 "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave,
>> etc. but will see where it goes.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lukasz
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 13:01:30 -0700
> From: Shawn Berg <bergwrestling at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Engineering Tools Accessibility
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> Thank you all for your input, it is much appreciated and helpful.
>
> Respectfully,
> Shawn Berg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Doug and Molly Miron via BlindMath
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As far as Matlab and Simulink go, if you are using a recent version of
>> Windows, the answer is no.  I am using version 5.3 on a Windows XP box.
>> I've been told on this  list that it is accessible on Mac with VoiceOver.
>> A similar environment is Octave, which is accessible under Windows 10,
>> using the CLI interface version.  What kind of engineering are you
>> pursuing?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug Miron
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Berg via BlindMath
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 12:38 PM
>> To: BlindMath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Shawn Berg
>> Subject: [BlindMath] Engineering Tools Accessibility
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I'm sure this has probably been discussed at some point in the past
>> but I wanted to see if there was any new information. I am an
>> engineering student and I was wondering if anyone has any info on
>> making any of the following programs accessible with Jaws.
>>
>> MATLAB
>> CATIA
>> ANSYS
>> Simulink
>>
>> Also I was wondering where I can find something to help me get started
>> learning LaTex.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shawn
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:20:04 -0500
> From: "Zach" <zm290 at msstate.edu>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
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> I don't know. It really didn't matter what it was called, I was going to use
> it.
>
> Zachary Mason
> M.S. Student
> Animal and Dairy Sciences
> Mississippi State University
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lukasz
> Grabowski via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:30 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
>
> "Monadology" was my first choice (ain't it clever? The website is
> essentialyl about creating good interfaces, i.e. monads, for one of the
> meaning of "monad"). Unfortunately monadology.com is not available :-(.
> But I guess the prevailing opinion is that "Blind Monad" is confusing, not
> interesting. It's hard to let it go, but probably I'll go back to the
> drawing board.
>
> L
>
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:26:33 +0000
> "Frankel, Lois E via BlindMath" <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> As a former Leibniz scholar, I always associate the term "monad" with
>> his metaphysical theories (see for example the Monadology).
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Lukasz Grabowski via BlindMath Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:06 AM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [BlindMath] help with website name
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired STEM
>> students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to
>> open-source software which are specifically designed for visually
>> impaired people (in case you're interested what's the service about, I
>> describe it briefly below, but it's an early stage).
>>
>> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose
>> Blind Monad.
>>
>> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check
>> with target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-)
>> It's somewhat inspired by the name of this group.
>
>
>>
>> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called
>> category theory monad is something which in particular describes
>> interactions. Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which
>> can be used for description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me
>> it's a bad name because noone will know what is a monad. I get the
>> point but perhaps on the other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with
>> this idea after a recent private conversation with another group
>> member Zach - it was clear that the problem he had, producing a
>> diagram of a biochemical reaction, can be fairly easily solved by
>> using open-source software. But the problem is having access to linux,
>> configuring orca or other linux screen reader correctly, learning to
>> interact with compilers, etc.
>>
>> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based
>> front-end, and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time
>> and resources into configuring their own computer. The kind of things
>> I want to provide access to are e.g. latex and latexml, python, octave
>> (clone of matlab), DOT language for graphs, etc. plus "tailor-made"
>> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I
>> say "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way
>> how they would prefer to interact with the website to solve a concrete
>> problem (e.g. producing a diagram of a biochemical reaction), and then
>> we work together to come up with an efficient interface.
>>
>> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's probably
>> not much in the above which you couldn't do yourself. Also the service
>> will not be meant to "hook you", but rather introduce you to a
>> technology in a most efficient fashion and encourage to explore it on
>> your own (perhaps on your own computer). At a later stage I would
>> perhaps also like to offer 1-1 "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave,
>> etc. but will see where it goes.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lukasz
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 19:03:20 -0700
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
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> Hello Lukasz,
> This is a great idea! I would say Blind Stem Project, STEM Accessible, STEM
> UI, I-STEM or STEM Access.
> I would say something that does error checking easily for LaTeX students,
> has guides for LaTeX for blind people, LaTeX to MathML, LaTeX to Nemeth and
> all these different things would be really really useful.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:05 AM, ?ukasz Grabowski via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired STEM
>> students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to
>> open-source software which are specifically designed for visually
>> impaired people (in case you're interested what's the service about, I
>> describe it briefly below, but it's an early stage).
>>
>> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose
>> Blind Monad.
>>
>> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check
>> with target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-)
>> It's somewhat inspired by the name of this group.
>>
>> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called
>> category theory monad is something which in particular describes
>> interactions. Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which
>> can be used for description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me
>> it's a bad name because noone will know what is a monad. I get the
>> point but perhaps on the other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with
>> this idea after a recent private conversation with another group member
>> Zach - it was clear that the problem he had, producing a diagram of a
>> biochemical reaction, can be fairly easily solved by using open-source
>> software. But the problem is having access to linux, configuring orca
>> or other linux screen reader correctly, learning to interact with
>> compilers, etc.
>>
>> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based
>> front-end, and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time and
>> resources into configuring their own computer. The kind of things I
>> want to provide access to are e.g. latex and latexml, python, octave
>> (clone of matlab), DOT language for graphs, etc. plus "tailor-made"
>> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I
>> say "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way how
>> they would prefer to interact with the website to solve a concrete
>> problem (e.g. producing a diagram of a biochemical reaction), and then
>> we work together to come up with an efficient interface.
>>
>> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's
>> probably not much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
>> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather
>> introduce you to a technology in a most efficient fashion and
>> encourage to explore it on your own (perhaps on your own
>> computer). At a later stage I would perhaps also like to offer 1-1
>> "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave, etc. but will see where it goes.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lukasz
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 03:59:57 -0700
> From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at oregonstate.edu>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
> Message-ID: <000701d2fd59$811ace60$83506b20$@oregonstate.edu>
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> Hi, I may be just dense, but I don't get it. What will you offer that is
> not
> available on this list? If an archive of directed information is needed, I
> am happy to offer access2science.com as a web site to post hints and
> instructions. There is already a lot there, though I must admit it has not
> been updated enough since it was first put together. Anybody want to
> volunteer to join the editorial staff?
>
> John Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lukasz
> Grabowski via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:06 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
> Subject: [BlindMath] help with website name
>
> Hi all,
>
> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired STEM
> students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to open-source
> software which are specifically designed for visually impaired people (in
> case you're interested what's the service about, I describe it briefly
> below, but it's an early stage).
>
> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose Blind
> Monad.
>
> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check with
> target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-) It's
> somewhat
> inspired by the name of this group.
>
> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called category
> theory monad is something which in particular describes interactions.
> Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which can be used for
> description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me it's a bad name
> because noone will know what is a monad. I get the point but perhaps on the
> other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>
>
>
> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with this
> idea
> after a recent private conversation with another group member Zach - it was
> clear that the problem he had, producing a diagram of a biochemical
> reaction, can be fairly easily solved by using open-source software. But
> the
> problem is having access to linux, configuring orca or other linux screen
> reader correctly, learning to interact with compilers, etc.
>
> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based front-end,
> and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time and resources
> into
> configuring their own computer. The kind of things I want to provide access
> to are e.g. latex and latexml, python, octave (clone of matlab), DOT
> language for graphs, etc. plus "tailor-made"
> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I say
> "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way how they
> would prefer to interact with the website to solve a concrete problem (e.g.
> producing a diagram of a biochemical reaction), and then we work together
> to
> come up with an efficient interface.
>
> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's probably not
> much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather introduce you
> to a technology in a most efficient fashion and encourage to explore it on
> your own (perhaps on your own computer). At a later stage I would perhaps
> also like to offer 1-1 "tutoring" in usage of latex, octave, etc. but will
> see where it goes.
>
> Best,
> Lukasz
>
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