[BlindMath] disabling math ML in place of LaTex

[Derek Scott Riemer]

Wikipedia uses mathml by default now. I could give you an large number of
tips with mathjax and nvda, but jaws, sorry, can't help.

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:48 PM, Trevor Attenberg via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> MathJax utilizes LaTex, does it not? Don't know how to work with it just
> yet. Actually, I've not seen math presented in this way recently on
> Wikipedia--maybe it varies? Here's an example:
> x 2   + 2 x − 2 = 0   {\displaystyle 1)\ x^{2}+2x-2=0}
>   Isn't the second part, where it says "desplaystyle, an aspect of LaTex?.
> Sometimes the exponents in the first halves, before the {\ do not show as
> superscripts.
> But I have elsewhere seen what you are describing Zach.
> Trevor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zach [mailto:zm290 at msstate.edu]
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:36 AM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics';
> tyler at tysdomain.com
> Cc: 'Trevor Attenberg'
> Subject: RE: [BlindMath] disabling math ML in place of LaTex
>
> I believe the equations in Wikipedia are generated with, or in accordance
> with, or some form thereof with MathJax. MathJax is a JavaScript display
> engine for mathematics that works in all browsers, but is kind of confusing
> at first. https://www.mathjax.org/ I find I have to press enter to open
> the equation, then I can navigate by element with the left and right arrows.
> Using up or down arrow allows you to expand an element, say exponents, or
> values enclosed in parenthesis, or logarithms. Hitting escape exits out of
> equation navigation. I'm using JAWS 17.0 and haven't had to install any
> plug-ins to use MathJax in IE.
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Zachary Mason
> M.S. Student
> Animal and Dairy Sciences
> Mississippi State University
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Trevor
> Attenberg via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 1:52 AM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'Blind Math list for those interested in
> mathematics' <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Trevor Attenberg <tattenberg at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] disabling math ML in place of LaTex
>
> Hi there Tyler et al.,
> This won't be of much help, but I'm wondering about math on Wikipedia
> myself, although I'm still only semi-literate with LaTex. I've found that
> with JAWS, Math Player,  and Firefox I can get easier access to what I
> assume to be Math ML math formulae by pressing enter on equations I
> see--I'm not sure if the instances of this were specially marked up or
> what. Is math ML particularly prone to displaying in an odd manor? Browsers
> can switch between Math ML and LaTex--can't they?
> I and many of my colleagues in Environmental science don't seem to have
> the pressing need to know LaTex, and thus I've not been directly
> instructed; thus I've found web content to be often difficult, but I am
> still a greenhorn when it comes to dealing with this biz in smart tactical
> fashion.
> Best,
> Trevor
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Littlefield, Tyler via BlindMath
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:11 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Littlefield, Tyler
> Subject: [BlindMath] disabling math ML in place of LaTex
>
> all:
>
> I'm having a bit of an irritating issue.
>
> I use Wikpedia for all kinds of stuff and most of the time there are
> formulas that I want to use/look at, but can't. Previously I'd just read
> the LaTex on wikipedia, which was sometimes messy but doable. Now instead
> of LaTex I'm getting this god awful math ML thing where it chunks the
> entire formula into one cell. By that I mean you right arrow once and get
> space and right arrow again and you get the whole thing.
> There's no copypaste or anything. I don't know where this rendering is
> taking place, but it's always been irritating anyway because it does so
> much weird translation. Does anyone know if there's a way to disable this
> and just go back to good old LaTex?
>
> Thanks,
>
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