[BlindMath] Looking for Braille Discrete Math Book

Tue May 2 12:42:33 UTC 2017

Looking for Braille Discrete Math Book  is available in an audio format from
Learning Ally
https://www.learningally.org/Search?q=Ted%20Sundstrom&page=1&perpage=10&sort
option=Best%20Match&tab=abooks    It is not a Braille format and I don't
know how well they handle description of the pictures but it's worth
considering if you can't find the Braille format.  I did not see it in
Bookshare.  Try BARD also.  You do have to pay a subscription fee to
Learning Ally which I think is $100 but they waive that if you are in the
College Success mentoring program so you may want to try that if you choose
to use the audio format.

Mary

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Have you searched for this book in (or browsed through) the bookshare.org
collection? BookShare have a lot of books in BRF for free as well. 

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Hello,

I am going to take a Discrete Math class in the Summer, and I am
looking to see if? my book for the class has already been brailled.
Does anyone know or have suggestions where I might find the book:

Mathematical Reasoning: Writing and Proof
by Ted Sundstrom

It is a free book that can be downloaded from:

http://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/books/7/

I have already done a lot of testing with the book with Jaws and NVDA,
and I don't think that I will be able to get through the whole quarter
with the accessibility that I have to work with.

Thanks,

TJ Breitenfeldt

Can you find the author and ask him if they have it in other formats?

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Timothy Breitenfeldt via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am going to take a Discrete Math class in the Summer, and I am
> looking to see if? my book for the class has already been brailled.
> Does anyone know or have suggestions where I might find the book:
>
> Mathematical Reasoning: Writing and Proof
> by Ted Sundstrom
>
> It is a free book that can be downloaded from:
>
> http://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/books/7/
>
> I have already done a lot of testing with the book with Jaws and NVDA,
> and I don't think that I will be able to get through the whole quarter
> with the accessibility that I have to work with.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TJ Breitenfeldt
>
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? - University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
? year undergraduate student.
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? - Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
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FWIW, discrete was my favorite math class in college. It is some pretty
wicked awesome stuff.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Derek Scott Riemer <
Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu> wrote:

> Can you find the author and ask him if they have it in other formats?
>
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Timothy Breitenfeldt via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am going to take a Discrete Math class in the Summer, and I am
>> looking to see if? my book for the class has already been brailled.
>> Does anyone know or have suggestions where I might find the book:
>>
>> Mathematical Reasoning: Writing and Proof
>> by Ted Sundstrom
>>
>> It is a free book that can be downloaded from:
>>
>> http://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/books/7/
>>
>> I have already done a lot of testing with the book with Jaws and NVDA,
>> and I don't think that I will be able to get through the whole quarter
>> with the accessibility that I have to work with.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>>
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>
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> Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!
>
>? ? - University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
>? ? year undergraduate student.
>? ? - Accessibility enthusiast.
>? ? - Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
>? ? - Open source enthusiast.
>? ? - Skier.
>
> Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>
>

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Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!

? - University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
? year undergraduate student.
? - Accessibility enthusiast.
? - Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
? - Open source enthusiast.
? - Skier.

Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>

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Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 10:31:41 -0400
From: Greg Williams <greg.williams.1978 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Looking for Braille Discrete Math Book
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Hi Timothy,
There is a database of books that have been brailled maintained by APH 
that you can check. However, it looks to me like this book was probably 
authored in LaTeX, and if it is not available in braille, contact the 
author to see if he would be willing to send you the source files which 
can be read directly on a braille display (somewhat of a pain because 
you have to function as your own LaTeX interpreter), can be converted to 
HTML pages with MATHML for the mathematics, or possibly converted into 
braille with Duxbury (I have not used Duxbury in years, so do not know 
its current status for working with LaTeX). Converting the LaTeX source 
to HTML with MATHML would allow you to use both speech and braille using 
NVDA with MathPlayer and a braille display, but there are still likely 
to be equations which have issues with both the spoken form or the 
displayed Nemeth version, so you will either need occasional sighted 
assistance or have to consult the LaTeX source directly.
Greg

On 4/30/2017 10:55 PM, Timothy Breitenfeldt via BlindMath wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am going to take a Discrete Math class in the Summer, and I am
> looking to see if  my book for the class has already been brailled.
> Does anyone know or have suggestions where I might find the book:
>
> Mathematical Reasoning: Writing and Proof
> by Ted Sundstrom
>
> It is a free book that can be downloaded from:
>
> http://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/books/7/
>
> I have already done a lot of testing with the book with Jaws and NVDA,
> and I don't think that I will be able to get through the whole quarter
> with the accessibility that I have to work with.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TJ Breitenfeldt
>
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 09:20:39 -0600
From: Derek Scott Riemer <Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu>
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Looking for Braille Discrete Math Book
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If you can get la tex, you might want to check out
https://github.com/derekriemer/latex-access-matrix
It can convert la tex to braille and speech (It's a bit hacky, but it might
help sometimes). Note that there's a jaws version too, but I don't know
about it very much. The program I linked to was an improvement on the
matrix browser for NVDA and a general redesign of the scripts for NVDA.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Greg Williams via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Timothy,
> There is a database of books that have been brailled maintained by APH
> that you can check. However, it looks to me like this book was probably
> authored in LaTeX, and if it is not available in braille, contact the
> author to see if he would be willing to send you the source files which
can
> be read directly on a braille display (somewhat of a pain because you have
> to function as your own LaTeX interpreter), can be converted to HTML pages
> with MATHML for the mathematics, or possibly converted into braille with
> Duxbury (I have not used Duxbury in years, so do not know its current
> status for working with LaTeX). Converting the LaTeX source to HTML with
> MATHML would allow you to use both speech and braille using NVDA with
> MathPlayer and a braille display, but there are still likely to be
> equations which have issues with both the spoken form or the displayed
> Nemeth version, so you will either need occasional sighted assistance or
> have to consult the LaTeX source directly.
> Greg
>
>
> On 4/30/2017 10:55 PM, Timothy Breitenfeldt via BlindMath wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am going to take a Discrete Math class in the Summer, and I am
>> looking to see if  my book for the class has already been brailled.
>> Does anyone know or have suggestions where I might find the book:
>>
>> Mathematical Reasoning: Writing and Proof
>> by Ted Sundstrom
>>
>> It is a free book that can be downloaded from:
>>
>> http://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/books/7/
>>
>> I have already done a lot of testing with the book with Jaws and NVDA,
>> and I don't think that I will be able to get through the whole quarter
>> with the accessibility that I have to work with.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>>
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Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!

   - University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
   year undergraduate student.
   - Accessibility enthusiast.
   - Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
   - Open source enthusiast.
   - Skier.

Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>

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