[BlindMath] [nfbcs] Science division reach its 2017 STEM scholarship goal

Dzhovani dzhovani.chemishanov at gmail.com
Thu May 11 04:23:39 UTC 2017


Hi all,

   I'm not quite sure if this argument actually makes sense. Someone 
complained that humanitarian majors are not worth it, someone else 
trying to bring down stem fields...

   I'm software developer and I am happy one so far. However, I have the 
time to develop because my boss don't bother me with much of the 
paperwork, because the finance team handle invoicing and lots of legal 
stuff and because there is a number of people who clean and maintain the 
office so that it is a nice place to work. It is a big world and it 
takes all kind of people to run it.

   The problem with the humanitarian fields is that many people think 
that they can bs their way in such major and sell themselves as 
university-educated. This is also known as "I don't know what I want to 
do with my life". Yep, quantifiable measurements are hard to apply 
there, however, the majors are not the problem, but the people who want 
to cheat the system and end up unemployed.

PS: A last one, I've seen such awful code in production that bs-ing in 
university is the only possible explanation no matter that this is 
stem-like field.

Dzhovani

On 11.5.2017 г. 5:37, Doug and Molly Miron via BlindMath wrote:
>    Good day all,
>
> I am a 76-year old research electrical engineer.  I've been 
> hard-of-seeing all my life, typical acuity of 4/200 until early 2015 
> when I lost useful vision.  I earned the B.S.E.E. in '62, the M.S.E.E. 
> in'63 and the Ph.D. in '77.  When I went to work in '63 an EE was not 
> expected to be overly specialized but to learn the particulars of a 
> problem on the job.  While I had specialized in control systems, in 
> those days it was a broad field encompassing electric machines, 
> electronics, hydraulics, pneumatics, sometimes heat transfer and fluid 
> flow.  In '74 I went to work for a company that wanted an rf engineer, 
> so I became one, designing rf circuits and antennas and arrays for 
> five years.  Before that, I had done general electronics design, 
> control systems analysis for space-borne energy systems, fuel cell 
> controls, and wrote simulation code for a rotary heat transfer system 
> at the back end of a jet engine.  I set up an experiment to show that 
> lead-acid batteries produced gas on both charge and discharge, an 
> important issue for deep-diving research submarines.  While I was 
> teaching in the '80s and '90s I wrote code for a small-vocabulary 
> voice recognition system to run on the '386 processor which is a 
> fixed-point arithmetic rather slow processor by today's standards.  
> The point is, I had continuous job satisfaction to the present day.  I 
> observed in job ads in the '90s that the requirements were getting 
> narrower as time went on, reading more like a poaching ad than a 
> search for real talent.  I think that when a job ceases to offer you 
> interesting work it's time to move on.  Although, in general, 
> management pays more than engineering, I didn't want to go that way, 
> partly because we felt that managers were failed engineers.
>
> Regards,
> Doug Miron
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Donald Winiecki via BlindMath
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:05 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Donald Winiecki
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] [nfbcs] Science division reach its 2017 STEM 
> scholarship goal
>
> *Engineers' job satisfaction not based on salary (routinized work 
> leads to
> stagnant and dropping job satisfaction)*
>
> https://www.jstor.org/stable/689758
>
>
>
> *Engineers' job satisfaction not substantially-different from Doctors,
> Lawyers or Teachers (high performance pressures, combined with routinized
> work leads to progressive decrease in job satisfaction)*
> http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00300731
>
>
> *Differential job satisfaction by sex*
>
> https://academic.oup.com/sf/article/92/2/723/2235817/What-s-So-Special-about-STEM-A-Comparison-of-Women 
>
>
>
> *Non-scientific tally of job-satisfaction ratings (not a representative
> sample)*
>
> http://www.myplan.com/careers/top-ten/highest-job-satisfaction.php
>
>
> *Employment rates & salary per career field, within 4-years of graduation
> (many STEM fields no better than non-STEM fields) (biggest premium for CS
> and undefined `engineering` -- note that 4-years is not a very large 
> window
> for assessing career -- UPENN reports larger window but I can't find the
> report!)*
>
> https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2014/2014141.pdf
>
> _don
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Don Winiecki, Ed.D., Ph.D.
> *Professor of Ethics & Morality in Professional Practice*
> Boise State University, College of Engineering
> 1910 University Drive, Mail Stop 2070
> Boise, Idaho 83725-2070 USA
> E-mail: dwiniecki at boisestate.edu
> Telephone: (+01) 208 426 1899
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~d
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:05 PM, William Grussenmeyer via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Good.  I am tired of seeing all those scholarships going to people in
>> majors like English, social work, and other humanities crap where they
>> will never find a job.
>>
>> On 5/9/17, John Miller via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Thank you to everyone who has been a part of our successful effort to
>> > collect donations for a 2017 NFB Science, Technology Engineering, and
>> > Mathematics (STEM) Scholarship.
>> > The STEM scholarship will be awarded in the amount of $3000 to a 
>> worthy
>> > blind student at the 2017 NFB convention.
>> >
>> > We have made significant progress towards raising funds for a 2018 
>> STEM
>> > scholarship as well.
>> > I want to let you know that we started the 2017 fundraising effort 
>> with
>> $940
>> > in the scholarship fund in July 2016.
>> > At this time we have raised $1565 towards a 2018 STEM scholarship.
>> > I feel confident that working together we can again award the STEM
>> > scholarship in 2018.
>> >
>> > We know that blind professionals and students are succeeding in 
>> biology,
>> > chemestry, and natural science.
>> > We know that blind individuals are performing at a high level in
>> > mathematics, physics, engineering, and related fields.
>> > Donations came from blind individuals working in these fields, our
>> friends,
>> > and our family.
>> > This year one corporate donation came from E.A.S.Y. LLC,
>> > www.easytactilegraphics.com<http://www.easytactilegraphics.com>, an
>> > organization committed to blind individuals creating technical 
>> drawings
>> > independently.
>> >
>> > I am so grateful to be part of an organization that has a belief in 
>> the
>> > abilities of blind people and a commitment to helping the next
>> generation of
>> > blind students.
>> > I am also so thankful to those who patiently listened to my pitch 
>> for > the
>> > scholarship and then generously made it happen.
>> >
>> > Very Best,
>> > John Miller, President
>> > Science and Engineering Division
>> > of the National Federation of the Blind
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>> -- 
>> William Grussenmeyer
>> PhD Student, Computer Science
>> University of Nevada, Reno
>> NSF Fellow
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