[BlindMath] College Statistics Cost of Orion 84

Thu Oct 12 12:39:27 UTC 2017

Just a quick follow up to note that many US colleges have Disability
Resource Centers that will absorb the cost of that Orion 84 and lend it to
student to use for that semester. Also, if the student qualifies for
Vocational Rehab, the AT department there may provide one.  Both sources are
variable and you have to reach out to them and see if they are a resource
but the college my son goes to will provide the Accessible Orion 84 to the
student.

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   1. Re: Accessibility for Stats courses (kperry at blinksoft.com)

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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessibility for Stats courses
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I do want to mention it is too bad that this stated that it would have been
too expensive to try to do statistics for this paper with the Orion TI-84.
If the creator of the paper would have talked with me I would have got  them
a unit to use.  I want to also mention that with the new Graphiti display
and the Orion TI-84 scatter plots can be experienced by a blind person in
the same way a sighted person experiences them.  It is true the graphiti is
still under development but that will all change next year.  I already have
some of the development Graphiti's and statistics is amazing when you can
feel the scatter plots rather than hear them.  I even saw a ven diagram the
other dayand it looks amazing.   For those who don't know me I am 100% blind
and  using a refreshable graphics display makes some of the old problems, no
longer problems.    If you have not seen info on the Graphiti you can go
here:

Tech.aph.org/graphiti 

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From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Godfrey,
Jonathan via BlindMath
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 5:44 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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Cc: Godfrey, Jonathan <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessibility for Stats courses

Thanks everyone.

The paper Bill sent around is a review of four statistical software options.
The options for blind students studying statistics courses and their
instructors across the whole range of issues is to be found at:
http://www.amstat.org/publications/jse/v23n3/godfrey.pdf
This is the paper that was inspired by the experiences of people on this
list (and others) as well as a summary of many tools suggested by people on
this list. It is filtered to the problems and solutions found in statistics
courses specifically because that relates to the authors? expertise, and it
was published in the Journal of Statistics Education with the intention that
the instructors of statistics courses are our primary audience. This paper
has been used by blind students as a tool for making their pathway through a
statistics course all that much easier and more successful. I?ve had
positive feedback from students, parents, and most often, from instructors
about the paper. In the end, I feel that we achieved more than just an
academic research output. As academics, Theodor and I put our colleagues on
notice that they can and should be prepared to assist a blind student coming
into their classroom. We acknowledged this list as a primary tool for
communication of ideas and solutions and I believe what we did was entirely
in keeping with the general culture of this community. We did it our way;
others will use a different tool to help us all get more blind students
succeeding in STEM disciplines.

Only one person?s contributions get a mention via a ?personal communication?
because that person made a statement (on this list actually) that we felt
deserved quoting in the most direct fashion, and then in a subsequent (off
list) exchange, he made another statement that showed the possibilities and
the desires we wanted to show our sighted colleagues. There are numerous
individuals that have made contributions on this list that I have valued. I
consider myself fortunate to have met quite a few of them at the NFB
Convention in July.

I know there are people out there that want to talk about the poor chances
of blind people succeeding in all manner of situations. It?s a pity that
these come from blind people themselves at times, when so many of us are
trying so hard to make sure that a blind person can live the life they want.

I?ve never said succeeding in STEM is easy. It isn?t for sighted people
either, but they do find it easier than we do as blind people. I do think
the difference in success in STEM versus other disciplines is reducing
though, in part because so many other disciplines are incorporating things
that were previously in the domain of the STEM geeks. The question for me,
which remains unanswered, is whether that difference is widening for blind
people. I think it has over the last twenty years or so, but I do believe
the tide is turning.

Cheers,
Jonathan

From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill
Dengler via BlindMath
Sent: Sunday, 10 September 2017 7:49 a.m.
To: Sabra Ewing
Cc: Bill Dengler; Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessibility for Stats courses

I?ve attached the article.

Bill

> On Sep 9, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Bill Dengler
<codeofdusk at gmail.com<mailto:codeofdusk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sabra,
> Read *this* sentence: "Sabra doesn't know it and I've not ever shared it
explicitly in public before now, but her negative experiences and their
ongoing airing via this list were a major source of inspiration for the
article Theodor and I wrote.?
> He said ?major source of inspiration?.
> He did not say the article was written about you.
> There is a difference.
>
> Bill
>> On Sep 9, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Sabra Ewing
<sabra1023 at gmail.com<mailto:sabra1023 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Sabra doesn't know it and I've not ever shared it explicitly in public
before now, but her negative experiences and their ongoing airing via this
list were a major source of inspiration for the article Theodor and I wrote.
>
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