[BlindMath] Nemeth Code

Tue Oct 31 03:39:10 UTC 2017

I think she is on one of our lists, at least one, NFBCS I think, 
although it could be gui-talk. 
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Dave

At 05:02 PM 10/30/2017, Todd Schwanke via BlindMath wrote:
>Nicholas:
>
>I looked a while back for the company that made Nemetex and couldn't 
>find info on what happened to the company or the product.  Here's a 
>bit of info on the developer of Nemetex
>Nicole Torcolini
>https://news.cs.washington.edu/2013/08/01/uw-cse-accesscomputing-alumna-nicole-torcolini-profiled-by-ncwit/
>
>Other alternatives for Braille input include Braille notetakers such 
>as the BrailleNote and Apex.
>
>As Sarah indicated, it's also not just a matter of what tools 
>support Nemeth, but also the level of math they support   When I 
>last communicated with Nicole on the Nemetex product, she indicated 
>that it was recommended only through basic calculus with small to 
>medium sized documents.
>
>You may also want to check out Lean Math.  This page has some links.
>http://access2science.com/indexAccessibility.html
>
>Todd Schwanke
>UW-Madison
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Sarah Jevnikar via BlindMath
>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:45 PM
>To: kperry at blinksoft.com; 'Blind Math list for those interested in 
>mathematics' <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Nemeth Code
>
>I may be misinterpreting what I'd heard. The coder is a she; 
>hopefully she'll get in touch.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: kperry at blinksoft.com [mailto:kperry at blinksoft.com]
>Sent: October 30, 2017 2:36 PM
>To: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com; 'Blind Math list for those interested 
>in mathematics'
>Subject: RE: [BlindMath] Nemeth Code
>
>As a coder.  I have to disagree with the statement that Java and windows
>were not compatible.   I would be interested in talking to the coder of
>Nemetex if he is hanging around.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Sarah Jevnikar via BlindMath
>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:39 PM
>To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
><blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Nemeth Code
>
>Hi again,
>My understanding with Nemetex was that Java and Windows were 
>becoming increasingly incompatible, and they regretfully had to stop 
>selling it. It's unfortunate, as translating Nemeth to text isn't 
>readily available for advanced math.
>
>Anyway, to Nicholas's question. You have NVDA, which I assume you're 
>using with Math Player. You may wish to get Math Type as well, as it 
>can be helpful.
>
>Unfortunately, there isn't a Braille-in way to translate Nemeth to 
>print, as there is for literary Braille using either JAWS or NVDA. 
>There are a few work-arounds.
>
>There is a way to translate Nemeth to print math using Duxbury; let 
>me know if you have this software. It works well, but not yet for 
>advanced math beyond the high school level, and there are a few tricks to it.
>
>Learning LaTeX is a good idea - it's a typesetting language that's 
>text-based and will allow you to create nicely-formatted documents. 
>I wouldn't recommend it for your own notes though, as it can be a 
>bit clunky and verbose for everyday reading, but for assignments and 
>for anything a sighted person would have to read, it's essential.
>
>As Susan suggested, you can type it into Notepad for your own notes, 
>so long as you make sure you're not typing with contracted input on. 
>This would look like gibberish to a sighted reader, but would allow 
>you to have readable Braille math for your own reference.
>
>I appreciate this is not entirely what you're looking for, but at 
>least it will give you a start.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Nicholas J via BlindMath
>Sent: October 29, 2017 7:33 PM
>To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>Cc: Nicholas J
>Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Nemeth Code
>
>Hello,
>
>I forgot to mention that I also use NVDA as a screen reader with most math.
>I use Jaws with xhtml files I can open in a browser. I usually like 
>to type the most on the braille display I use.
>
>Thank you,
>Nicholas
>
> > On Oct 29, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Derek Scott Riemer
><Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu> wrote:
> >
> > There is nemetex,  but I can't find the website anymore. Wonder if the
>author just decided not to continue work on it and took it down?
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Nicholas J via BlindMath
><blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Thank you for the email Sarah. I use both Jaws and braille. I am
>relatively new to braille, but I have a Focus 14 braille display 
>that I use often. I am looking to type and read math, if possible on 
>both a windows computer and IOS device. I would like to type notes 
>and also do homework having a lot of math content.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Nicholas
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Oct 29, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Sarah Jevnikar
> >> > <sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com>
>wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi there,
> >> > Just for clarification, are you looking to use print math and
> >> > create math in Nemeth code, or are you a Nemeth code user looking
> >> > for a way to use it on a mainstream PC? Do you use a screen reader
> >> > or Braille display?  Or are your goals something else entirely? :)
> >> > This will help I/we give you more helpful answers.
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > Sarah
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >> > Nicholas J via BlindMath
> >> > Sent: October 28, 2017 9:59 AM
> >> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> >> > Cc: Nicholas J
> >> > Subject: [BlindMath] Nemeth Code
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Is it possible to type nemeth code on a windows machine like in
> >> > Microsoft Word? If not, where is it possible to type nemeth code?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > Nicholas
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