[BlindMath] What does the largest one-day drop in market value sound like?

Fri Aug 3 20:22:46 UTC 2018

Thank you so much. I will look at that.Now here is my next question. Instructors keep tagging blind people with spatial processing deficits. I was tagged with this, but I learned that I actually can process spatial information. Most of the time, that information just isn't available. When I walk somewhere, I can't remember what I did or where I went, but if I take a binaural recording and listen to it while I am sitting still, I can remember and it is very different to anything that I have experienced before. I believe I am processing spatial information. I have felt my brain trying to process this information before as though it is working or something is on the tip of my tongue, but it just hasn't happened. And then I played a game called a blind legend. I have always had trouble with games like text adventures because I could never keep track of where I was, but in A Blind Legend, I could keep track of every where I was going. I discovered by Nora recording from this barbershop video, and I was very surprised that when I listened to the recording, I could keep track of where everything was in the room including where I was sitting, where the guitar was, where the phone was, and where the sink was when I could not do that in real life. So I am wondering whether this is just unique to me or whether this is the case with many people who have always been blind and who have been tagged with spatial processing deficits? I also wonder whether I really do have spatial processing deficits now. What I mean is since I never received spatial information that I could process and since I never received appropriate instruction to use the correct information I was receiving in the environment, did that caused me to develop a spatial deficit when I did not have to have one, or do I actually not have a spatial processing deficit, meaning that I can process spatial information when presented to me in the right way just as well as anyone else? Like I guess to rephrase my question, if you were cited and you never looked at anything like you went around blindfolded and you did that for years and then you finally started looking at things, would you still be cited just like other sighted people? Is my situation even the equivalent to that because I don't know if I actually did develop spacially and I just did not realize it because people just kept giving me tactile maps and pictures and things, If I partially developed because of natural processes, but not as well as I could have, if I did not develop in this area but I still have the capacity to just like everyone else, or if I could have developed in this area earlier, but I missed that window and no I will never be like other people. I do not know a lot about brain research and I don't know a lot about this area. All I know is that the capacity for me to process this information is there. I was told growing up that the part of my brain that is supposed to process that information is not working. However, with this special type of information, it works great, so that means that that part of my brain is working. Is really weird. It is almost like having another sense that I did not have before like hearing or feeling, but something else. What can I now due to develop it to its full capacity? Or at least to try? Or is it already developed to its full capacity and I just have to use it? Regardless, what can I do so that I know longer have  spacial processing deficit? I suppose I will always have spacial processing differences, but it doesn't have to be a deficit. If my hypothesis is right, what can we do so that people like me are no longer taught incorrectly, invalidated concerning experiences with echo location, presented with information they will never be designed to process and shamed for it, or even told by some instructors that they are purposely messing things up and not following directions.  

Sabra Ewing

> On Aug 3, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Ed Summers <Ed.Summers at sas.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sabra,
> 
> That's great. I can address a few of the items you mentioned.
> 
> It is most certainly possible to create graphs from a spreadsheet right now using a free extension for Google Chrome called SAS Graphics Accelerator. I do it every day. The first thing I do is save the worksheet as a csv file. Then, I import the csv file into my Laboratory within SAS Graphics Accelerator. Then, I create a pie chart, bar chart, line chart, time series chart, histogram, scatter plot, etc. Then, I explore those graphs interactively using my keyboard and headphones. If I want I can generate a visual representation of the chart and share it with colleagues. That's how I created the Facebook stock chart... follow the instructions at the bottom of the page to explore the graph interactively:
> 
> http://support.sas.com/misc/accessibility/blog/FacebookDaily.html
> 
> Also, check out the SAS Graphics Accelerator Users Guide for a complete description of all the features:
> 
> http://go.documentation.sas.com/?docsetId=gracclug&docsetTarget=titlepage.htm&docsetVersion=1.0&locale=en
> 
> Best,
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sabra Ewing via BlindMath
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 8:53 PM
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> Cc: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>; Pranav Lal <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] What does the largest one-day drop in market value sound like?
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> Wow, that chart made a lot of sense to me and I normally can't read charts very well. What I got out of it was that at the beginning of the quarter, they were making a good amount of money. Near the middle of the quarter, the earnings went way down, and then they abruptly went up to around where they were at the beginning of the quarter. Then, they slowly went up and at the end of the quarter, the earnings were higher than they were at the beginning of the quarter. Am I right? I am looking to go into the field of data analysis. Do you know what would be the best way to access charts and that field? I need the charts to be like this the way that you make it. I do not need any of these tactile charts. It does not have to be a piano, but it needs to be the same where it can draw it in my mind. I want what you are saying where I can navigate the chart using the keyboard, I can listen to the chart, I can get the numbers from it, I can listen to certain portions of the chart, and I can maybe even connected with a spreadsheet. I would like to have things on a spreadsheet that I can turn into a chart that I can listen to and also show to people. I need to chart to go from left to right in the earphones the way that you have it, and I would even be interested in charts that use 3-D recording. Also, I would like a feature in Aira where an agent can send me a picture or a chart that I can listen to. I would also love to be able to switch between my computer and my phone when dealing with these charts, have it integrated with collaboration tools if I am working on a data set with the team, and so forth. Do you know what I could do to get into this field? I would also like to know why I can't read any tactile pictures, graphs, or maps even though I was born blind and had lots of training to try to teach me, but I can listen to complicated charts and pictures without training? I even listened to this one picture that was rotating. Also is it possible to sound code things the way that sighted people colorcode them? Like how they might put important points in a different color or put certain portions of the chart in a different color?Or if Aira cannot actually link up with a piece of software, it would be cool if the agents could receive training to be able to sing you a picture or a chart although that might be a bit harder if you have no way to make it go left to right.
> 
> Sabra Ewing
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Pranav Lal via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> 
>> Very cool. Do the beeps indicate the y axis? I am confused by the higher
>> pitch which seems to be indicating a lower value? That is, the higher the
>> pitch the lower the value or is it that the value kept climbing and then
>> just stopped?
>> 
>> Pranav
>> 
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