[BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML

Wed Jul 18 13:18:42 UTC 2018

 Thanks again Steve!!! Thanks Joseph!!!

I tried to read MathJax using Chrome Vox, but i did not succeed.

I will try with  MathJax A11y extension in Chrome that Joseph recommended.

One more thing,

I know that the Mathplayer is for free. it will be hard to add a new
language to MathPlayer?
Anybody know the team that are responsbile for the MathPlayer, that i can
enter in conctact with them?

Thanks again!!

Alberto Ortiz

2018-07-16 19:00 GMT-03:00 Joseph Polizzotto via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org>:

> Hi Everyone:
>
> Last I had tried navigating MathJax rendered equations, I used Shift +
> SpaceBar to open the MathJax menu. From there, I used the arrow keys to
> navigate to the extension menu item and activate it. I had more success
> using the MathJax A11y extension in Chrome.
>
> HTH,
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:15 AM Noble,Stephen L. via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Sorry that Portuguese did not find its way into MathPlayer. I do see that
> > the MathJax localization does include Portuguese, so if the page in
> > question uses MathJax to serve the math, then you might be able to get it
> > to work. There's a way to turn on the accessibility extension in MathJax,
> > but you may need to check the documentation to figure ouit how to do
> that.
> > Perhaps here:
> > http://docs.mathjax.org/en/latest/misc/accessibility-features.html
> >
> >
> > --Steve Noble
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Alberto Ortiz <alberto.ortiz.mendes at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:00 PM
> > To: Noble,Stephen L.
> > Cc: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML
> >
> > Thanks Steve
> >
> > I installed Mathplayer, now i can read some formulas on Internet
> Explorer,
> > but for some reason i still cant read on Mozzila.
> >
> > But now i realize that MathPlayer dont have Portuguese on his languages,
> > is there anyway of reading formulas with NVDA without using MathPlayer.
> >
> >
> > - --Alberto Ortiz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Em Seg, 16 de jul de 2018 14:56, Noble,Stephen L. <
> > steve.noble at louisville.edu<mailto:steve.noble at louisville.edu>> escreveu:
> >
> > If you are finding that NVDA is not reading the math expressions, be sure
> > that you have MathPlayer installed on your PC. Here's the direct download
> > link: https://www.dessci.com/en/dl/MathPlayerSetup.exe<
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> dessci.com_en_dl_MathPlayerSetup.exe&d=DwMFaQ&c=
> OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
> 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=
> csOtbkkIRpVXtwudVasf6FC5jGDPy0Aw95kmDwLt-9Q&s=
> BJzi4fGs8TS1mMvwQtBBJSpIfwyZp1xo7uUYqi2NgWA&e=
> > >
> >
> > You can read more about MathPlayer on this page:
> > https://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/download.htm<
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> dessci.com_en_products_mathplayer_download.htm&d=DwMFaQ&c=
> OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
> 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=
> csOtbkkIRpVXtwudVasf6FC5jGDPy0Aw95kmDwLt-9Q&s=OE-
> YPvhxRf50qOQJMR7D4ECcl4J9utQz0vqUd6e7g7k&e=
> > >
> >
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> >
> > --Steve Noble
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:
> > blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>> on behalf of Alberto Ortiz via BlindMath
> <
> > blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:32 AM
> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Alberto Ortiz
> > Subject: [BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML
> >
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I’m Alberto, and I work with Math texts in a VEL (Virtual Environment
> > Learning) called
> > Canvas and need NVDA to read formulas in this platform. However, Canvas
> > sees LaTex as
> > an image which NVDA cannot read. So far I´ve described all formulas like
> > text from image
> > attributes, so NVDA can read it. However, I need to find another way of
> > doing this reading
> > but run into the issues as follows.
> >
> >
> > 1) Using of MathML
> > I’ve looked in the old threads and, as far as I know, NVDA can read pages
> > that use
> > MathML. In YouTube, I’ve found a video that shows the reading being made:
> >
> >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dckx-2Djl99Iic&d=DwIGaQ&c=
> OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
> 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=IiJF--XJbPEma-
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> QzlzgaBGdR0Q4JVM1NtPr4&e=
> >
> > I’ve installed NVDA to test this reading, but I couldn’t read it
> properly.
> > Therefore, I
> > tried to read this page that is using MathML and I also failed:
> >
> >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> freedomscientific.com_content_html_jawshq_MathML-2DSamples.
> html&d=DwIGaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
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> rldmu2dg_CWni7I&e=
> >
> > I use Firefox and the page loads correctly but NVDA doesn’t recognize the
> > formulas
> > and reads them as a normal text. In the third topic, for example, it
> can’t
> > recognize
> > fractions. It reads them, again, as a text.
> > Maybe I need some sort of NVDA’s plugin to do this reading?
> >
> > 2) Describing formulas
> > Does any standard exist to describe formulas? I have difficulties to
> > describe limits,
> > matrixes and equations. Now, we’re describing formulas and making tests
> > with a
> > blind person to check if he can read, but we really need a describing
> > template.
> >
> > Does
> > anyone know if any type of template exists for it?
> >
> >
> > Another and last thing: is there any page with examples of accessible
> math
> > texts? If
> > they exist, do you know where I can consult them?
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