[BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML

Wed Jul 18 14:23:46 UTC 2018

Alberto, MathPlayer is our product. You may write me privately about it,
but not at the address I'm using for this email. Since our companies
merged, I have not updated my subscriptions to the new email address, so
I'm still subscribed to blindmath with this address. Please email me at
bob at wiris.com.

Most of the information you could ever need about MathPlayer is on our
[old] website: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/manual.htm.
That site doesn't have information about adding a language though. I can
help with that.

Cheers,
Bob Mathews
WIRIS America

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Alberto Ortiz via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>  Thanks again Steve!!! Thanks Joseph!!!
>
> I tried to read MathJax using Chrome Vox, but i did not succeed.
>
> I will try with  MathJax A11y extension in Chrome that Joseph recommended.
>
>
> One more thing,
>
> I know that the Mathplayer is for free. it will be hard to add a new
> language to MathPlayer?
> Anybody know the team that are responsbile for the MathPlayer, that i can
> enter in conctact with them?
>
>
> Thanks again!!
>
>
> Alberto Ortiz
>
>
> 2018-07-16 19:00 GMT-03:00 Joseph Polizzotto via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>:
>
> > Hi Everyone:
> >
> > Last I had tried navigating MathJax rendered equations, I used Shift +
> > SpaceBar to open the MathJax menu. From there, I used the arrow keys to
> > navigate to the extension menu item and activate it. I had more success
> > using the MathJax A11y extension in Chrome.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:15 AM Noble,Stephen L. via BlindMath <
> > blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry that Portuguese did not find its way into MathPlayer. I do see
> that
> > > the MathJax localization does include Portuguese, so if the page in
> > > question uses MathJax to serve the math, then you might be able to get
> it
> > > to work. There's a way to turn on the accessibility extension in
> MathJax,
> > > but you may need to check the documentation to figure ouit how to do
> > that.
> > > Perhaps here:
> > > http://docs.mathjax.org/en/latest/misc/accessibility-features.html
> > >
> > >
> > > --Steve Noble
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Alberto Ortiz <alberto.ortiz.mendes at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:00 PM
> > > To: Noble,Stephen L.
> > > Cc: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML
> > >
> > > Thanks Steve
> > >
> > > I installed Mathplayer, now i can read some formulas on Internet
> > Explorer,
> > > but for some reason i still cant read on Mozzila.
> > >
> > > But now i realize that MathPlayer dont have Portuguese on his
> languages,
> > > is there anyway of reading formulas with NVDA without using MathPlayer.
> > >
> > >
> > > - --Alberto Ortiz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Em Seg, 16 de jul de 2018 14:56, Noble,Stephen L. <
> > > steve.noble at louisville.edu<mailto:steve.noble at louisville.edu>>
> escreveu:
> > >
> > > If you are finding that NVDA is not reading the math expressions, be
> sure
> > > that you have MathPlayer installed on your PC. Here's the direct
> download
> > > link: https://www.dessci.com/en/dl/MathPlayerSetup.exe<
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> > dessci.com_en_dl_MathPlayerSetup.exe&d=DwMFaQ&c=
> > OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=
> > csOtbkkIRpVXtwudVasf6FC5jGDPy0Aw95kmDwLt-9Q&s=
> > BJzi4fGs8TS1mMvwQtBBJSpIfwyZp1xo7uUYqi2NgWA&e=
> > > >
> > >
> > > You can read more about MathPlayer on this page:
> > > https://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/download.htm<
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> > dessci.com_en_products_mathplayer_download.htm&d=DwMFaQ&c=
> > OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=
> > csOtbkkIRpVXtwudVasf6FC5jGDPy0Aw95kmDwLt-9Q&s=OE-
> > YPvhxRf50qOQJMR7D4ECcl4J9utQz0vqUd6e7g7k&e=
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope that helps,
> > >
> > >
> > > --Steve Noble
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:
> > > blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>> on behalf of Alberto Ortiz via
> BlindMath
> > <
> > > blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:32 AM
> > > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > > Cc: Alberto Ortiz
> > > Subject: [BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML
> > >
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > > I’m Alberto, and I work with Math texts in a VEL (Virtual Environment
> > > Learning) called
> > > Canvas and need NVDA to read formulas in this platform. However, Canvas
> > > sees LaTex as
> > > an image which NVDA cannot read. So far I´ve described all formulas
> like
> > > text from image
> > > attributes, so NVDA can read it. However, I need to find another way of
> > > doing this reading
> > > but run into the issues as follows.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) Using of MathML
> > > I’ve looked in the old threads and, as far as I know, NVDA can read
> pages
> > > that use
> > > MathML. In YouTube, I’ve found a video that shows the reading being
> made:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> > youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dckx-2Djl99Iic&d=DwIGaQ&c=
> > OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=IiJF--XJbPEma-
> > eRSjBibl3VTs1ouk-pGYq9rvSjUME&s=bn6ozpu7vH2X5PjrOhSY_
> > QzlzgaBGdR0Q4JVM1NtPr4&e=
> > >
> > > I’ve installed NVDA to test this reading, but I couldn’t read it
> > properly.
> > > Therefore, I
> > > tried to read this page that is using MathML and I also failed:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> > freedomscientific.com_content_html_jawshq_MathML-2DSamples.
> > html&d=DwIGaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=IiJF--XJbPEma-
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> > rldmu2dg_CWni7I&e=
> > >
> > > I use Firefox and the page loads correctly but NVDA doesn’t recognize
> the
> > > formulas
> > > and reads them as a normal text. In the third topic, for example, it
> > can’t
> > > recognize
> > > fractions. It reads them, again, as a text.
> > > Maybe I need some sort of NVDA’s plugin to do this reading?
> > >
> > > 2) Describing formulas
> > > Does any standard exist to describe formulas? I have difficulties to
> > > describe limits,
> > > matrixes and equations. Now, we’re describing formulas and making tests
> > > with a
> > > blind person to check if he can read, but we really need a describing
> > > template.
> > >
> > > Does
> > > anyone know if any type of template exists for it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Another and last thing: is there any page with examples of accessible
> > math
> > > texts? If
> > > they exist, do you know where I can consult them?
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