[BlindMath] Typing Math and Science Quickly and Understandably

[Bhavya shah]

Hi Sabra,

Thanks a lot for your detailed response.

First off, I must confess that I have no knowledge and no intent of
procuring the same about Nemeth Braille or working with Math through
Braille in any other form. I have always exclusively relied on my
computer to fulfil my classroom, notetaking and examination needs and
have never used Braille for any practical purpose so far. I don’t
think it would be worthwhile to invest time in learning Math typing
with Braille given that I have no headstart or inclination of any sort
anyways.

“Also note that you can use parentheses and brackets.” – Could you
explicate this suggestion with an example? I am not too sure I
properly follow you here.

“The Pearce in equation editor can produce math in a visual format.” –
Could Since a perfunctory Google search failed in yielding further
information about the mentioned tool, could you please share any links
or sites to learn more about Pearce? Also, just to clarify, typing
Math such that it is visually readable is not one of my top priorities
at the moment. I am keen more on being able to take mathematical and
scientific notes rapidly, and in a way that I can directly understand
what I have typed while referring to the same again at a later date.
With my present techniques, especially LaTeX with MathType, I tend to
need to read a fairly simple equation multiple times and even part by
part before it registers entirely in my head.

“Do not type on your phone as I am doing now because it is much
slower.” – I have no intention to use a Touch Screen or software
keyboard on a Smartphone or Tablet to for academic purposes, let alone
mathematic and scientific notetaking. :)

“You can copy previous steps to your clipboard, paste them, and then
modify them to create your future steps.” – I do this currently for
the very use case you described, that of balancing chemical equations.
As you have recommended, I could probably broaden this practice to
solving numerical problems too.

“Another thing you can do is request things in electronic format.” – I
will be in a fairly good position in this regard, for I have a great
rehabilitation institute in my city with which I have been long
affiliated and of which I have been an erstwhile beneficiary, who have
will make this aspect of my education easier for me. However, I am
still thinking about the preferred format of my Math and Science
material, because due to a variety of reasons, I wasn’t all that
comfortable with Math ML present in MS Word created using MathType and
then read by NVDA using Math Player. With reference to tackling
graphs, charts and diagrams, again, it is likely that I might get some
important but excessively visual diagrams converted into tactile
graphics, so I am in a good position there too. I have heard about
sonification of curves through software like Math Trax and Audio
Graphing Calculator, and thanks for your added input about 3D
exploding pie charts, but I think I will probably start exploring
these when I reach syllabus dealing with graphs. I am a little
overwhelmed with straightening out the basics before I plunge into the
more specific solutions to deal with particular chapters and concepts.

For the most part, I will not be doing practicals in a big way,
especially not as part of coaching for this engineering entrance
examination, but if you can get the exact name of this blind chemist
(I tried “sapalo blind chemist” in Google to no avail), even if just
for trivia and to quench my curiosity, it would be quite fascinating
to understand how this individual works.

Again, many thanks for your prompt but comprehensive set of suggested solutions.

Thanks.

On 5/2/18, Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I typed most of my math using the first method. You might be able to type
> more quickly if you had a braille keyboard. Also note that you can use
> parentheses and brackets. The Pearce in equation editor can produce math in
> a visual format. It is free. The braille note touch can do this as well
> although it is very expensive. I would definitely say to use a keyboard. Do
> not type on your phone as I am doing now because it is much slower. Another
> thing you can do is use copy and paste. You do not have to type everything
> from scratch. You can copy previous steps to your clipboard, paste them, and
> then modify them to create your future steps. Like for example, you might
> write a chemical equation that is not balanced. Paste this equation
> underneath it so you have two copies of the same equation. Then, take the
> first step toward balancing that equation and make those changes to your
> second copy. Now you have your equation and underneath it, you have the
> modified version with step one completed, so copied the version with step
> one completed to your clipboard and paste it underneath. Now you have the
> original equation, and you have two copies of step one. Modified the second
> copy of step one based on what you plan to do in step two. Continue this
> method until you have finished the problem. With a braille keyboard, you
> should be able to type as fast as someone can speak and even faster. If you
> cannot or a braille keyboard is not an option, you can record what is being
> said with a phone or other recording device and you can then go back over
> it. Another thing you can do is request things in electronic format. Mini
> American professors do not know how to create accessible math when it is
> really very easy as you described. You do not have to know any markup
> languages. You can create accessible math just by using your computer
> keyboard, and in many cases, if you are a computer science student, your
> math is in the perfect format to just paste right over into your ide. Maybe
> Indian professors would be better at creating accessible. If not, you might
> be able to find someone who can do it. This will be especially easy if you
> can find some funding. I was not lucky in this regard because other than
> professors, I never found a dedicated person who knew how to produce
> accessible math. I finally got to a position where I could no longer receive
> accessible math because I moved on to a four-year university where the
> professors did not know how to produce it. It is very ironic that when I
> started out at a two year university, the professors did know how to produce
> it. I approach programmers, professors, deans, and department head. No one
> actually knew how including the programmers who produce accessible math
> every day. I finally had to end up listening to my math on recordings and
> writing everything down. It was very difficult. If you want to get math in
> braille, there is software that can do it called Duxberry. Ironically, my
> university actually had this software, but no one knew how to use it
> including the people who worked at disability services. Getting it for
> yourself will not be helpful. If you get this software, you will need
> someone who can modify the equations for you. If your professor has files
> that were generated from a markup language, you could try asking for those
> source files. Even if you do not know the markup language, math is written
> very similarly when you are programming computers, so you could probably
> pick up how to read it. Unfortunately, my professors used PDFs that they got
> from other sources or pictures of hand written documents so I could not do
> this. People will try to tell you that Matt cannot be produced excessively
> on the computer. This simply is not true. Every mathematical formula,
> function, and number known to humankind can be programmed into a computer
> using a text based programming language. Also, many of these functions and
> formulas can be put into XL. If you can put these formulas into XL, then you
> can produce them accessibly in a word document. If someone is trying to tell
> you that they can't, then just tell them to put it in a spreadsheet, press
> F2 on the cells, and read the formulas that way. XL is very good because you
> can use it to organize data, you can use it as a calculator, and you can use
> it to create tables and graphs. You can put these documents in your dropbox
> and you can get the pictures of the graphs. You can then import these
> pictures into the voice app on your phone and you can listen to them. If you
> are going to listen to pie charts, to make it easier on yourself to read,
> use the 3-D exploding pie charts. This may sound counterintuitive, but when
> you listen to them, there is a bit more separation between each piece. I
> don't know how you would get training to listen to grass. I just
> automatically was born knowing how to do it. No one ever taught me. I could
> always listen to graphs very easily and I could never read tactile graphics.
> There is also a program called math tracks where you can create audio graphs
> by entering in equations.However, it is really best to have both the
> equation and the data because what if you created a graph using any
> equation, and you need to make some changes to the data? Well, you don't
> have the data, so what are you going to do? You could probably generate the
> data from the equation in some cases, but that will take forever. I like to
> listen to a graph and have the spreadsheet in front of me at the same time.
> There is also a blind chemist named Dr. sapalo. I'm not sure how to spell
> his name. I have his card somewhere but I just have to find it. I really
> wish people would start using those barcode Cards where I can scan the
> contact information into my phone, but I only know one person who uses
> those. Anyways, You may want to get in touch with him. He has all of these
> probes. They do all different things. They connect to a computer and they
> can measure chemical reactions and make graphs and do all this stuff
> depending on what probe you use. For example, you could use one probe to
> graph the color changes that occur during an experiment. You could use
> another probe to track temperature changes like ice melting. I don't really
> do chemistry, but if I did, I imagine I would want this thing, but I can't
> remember what it is called. But he is actually a chemistry professor at a
> university. He is totally blind and he teaches classes and runs labs and
> does all sorts of things. There are plenty of blind computer scientists, but
> he struck my interest in particular because I have not heard of mini blind
> chemists. He also had some good advice for 3-D printing that would work in
> the United States, but I am not sure if it would work in India. If possible
> though, you may want to get some 3-D models printed. Another thing is that
> you want to stay consistent. You want to make sure that you are doing things
> in the classroom the same way you will do them during testing. In my
> chemistry class, I did not have access to a lot of 3-D models, but for
> testing purposes, they made me a 3-D model. This really was not fair because
> it was made out of a lot of cups and straws. I did not know what it was, and
> it is not fair to use models for testing purposes that you did not use in
> the classroom or to use a different method for testing purposes that you did
> not use in the classroom because this will skew the results. If you use
> certain accommodations in the classroom, insist on the same accommodations
> for testing.
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
>> On May 1, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Bhavya shah via BlindMath
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am Bhavya Shah, a totally blind 16-year-old student from Mumbai,
>> India. Having just completed my tenth grade with the same Mathematics
>> and Science syllabus as my sighted peers in a mainstream school, I
>> intend to take up the Science stream according to the Indian education
>> system for Classes 11 and 12 with the subject combination of
>> Physics+Chemistry+Mathematics, and probably take up something along
>> the lines of Computer Science for my undergraduate studies after that
>> (although I shouldn’t overly worry about about finalizing that for
>> now, I suppose). Additionally, I shall be enrolling into coaching for
>> a very competitive pan-India engineering entrance examination over the
>> next two years where I will be delving into particularly advanced
>> topics in to the three afore-mentioned subjects.
>>
>> Till Class 10, I managed an overwhelming chunk of Math either orally
>> or mentally, and from what I have been informed, have dealt with
>> relatively very simple organic structures, general numericals and
>> chemical equations which I have been handling mostly via plain text.
>> It has become increasingly clear to me that this makeshift method will
>> be extremely inefficient and consequently infeasible for the kind of
>> syllabus I am transitioning to. Hence, I am looking for different
>> techniques, tools or methods of typing Math and Science that will
>> allow me to be as rapid a Math&Science typist as I am of the English
>> language (at its peak, my fingers have achieved about 100 WPM) so that
>> I can cope with the daily rigor this coaching demands. I need to be
>> able to type mathematical and scientific content accurately and
>> swiftly not necessarily such that it is visually readable by a sighted
>> professor but more so for my own reference, understanding and purposes
>> of review and revision.
>>
>> So far, I am versed only with two options – ASCII Math, where I would
>> just type Math and Science using standard symbols present on any
>> keyboard such as /, *, ^ and so on to denote different things (perhaps
>> (x+2)/x-1)) in chiefly plain text, or type things in LaTeX using
>> MathType ($\frac{x+2}{x-1}$) and employ Math Player and NVDA to read
>> it. From my basic understanding of this and limited past experience
>> with each of these methods, the former sounds much faster and more
>> efficient to me, but I am open to evidence and experiences suggesting
>> otherwise. There are various other Math typing tools I have heard
>> about over the years such as Infty Reader and Lean Math, but have
>> never adequately researched them let alone used them to any extent.
>> Any information or instructional material on these and other potential
>> alternatives you would recommend would be of great help too.
>>
>> I would truly appreciate any assistance on different strategies you
>> may have used to math your sighted counterparts’ speed in terms of
>> writing and solving mathematical and scientific material, questions
>> and problem sets.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>> Bhavya Shah
>>
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