[BlindMath] Reading Nemeth on a macOS?

Wed May 23 17:46:10 UTC 2018

Click a routing key (The buttons above the braille cells which usually move
the blinking cursor (the dots 7-8 on most implementations)).
HTH,
Derek

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Joseph Polizzotto <jpolizzotto at htctu.net>
wrote:

> Thanks for your reply Derek.
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> When you say “click a cursor key”, to which key are you referring?
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> (I have attempted to use the sample files with VO in a number ways,
> including using VO + ↓, to *interact* with an item, VO + Shift + F3, to
> turn on/off cursor tracking etc.)
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> Perhaps I am missing something,
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> *From:* Derek Scott Riemer [mailto:Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu]
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:46 PM
> *To:* jpolizzotto at htctu.net; Blind Math list for those interested in
> mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* White, Jason J <jjwhite at ets.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [BlindMath] Reading Nemeth on a macOS?
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> Click a cursor key. Does it clear the spoken feedback and show nemeth? I
> think I remember IOS and MACKOS doing this (Flashing the spoken feedback,
> and making you clear it).
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> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Joseph Polizzotto via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you Jason.
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> Your experience is exactly what I have encountered as well. I thought that
> it might have been the display I was using (Baum Vario 340), but I am now
> wondering about overall macOS support for Nemeth translation.
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> I will reach out to someone at Apple about this and get back if I hear
> anything.
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> Best,
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> From: White, Jason J [mailto:jjwhite at ets.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:22 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>; Joseph Polizzotto <jpolizzotto at htctu.net>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Reading Nemeth on a macOS?
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> When I test one of your examples in Safari with VoiceOver, the braille
> display shows a mixture of words and symbols that correspond to the spoken
> representation of the expression. It does not show Nemeth code.
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> When I last tested it, however, Safari under iOS produced correct Nemeth
> code from MathML examples. For some reason, Apple’s Mac OS version of
> VoiceOver isn’t applying Nemeth code translation to content written in
> MathML.
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> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath-bounces@
> nfbnet.org> > on behalf of Joseph Polizzotto via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org> >
> Reply-To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org> >
> Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 19:15
> To: Joseph Polizzotto <jpolizzotto at htctu.net <mailto:jpolizzotto at htctu.net>
> >, Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org> >
> Cc: Joseph Polizzotto <jpolizzotto at htctu.net <mailto:jpolizzotto at htctu.net>
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> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Reading Nemeth on a macOS?
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> I forgot to attach the documents that I have been using to test. They are
> the following:
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> 1) HTML + MathML
> 2) HTML + MathML + MathJax
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> I have tried both of these documents in the latest version of Safari
> (11.1).
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> Thank you,
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> Joseph
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> > On May 17, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Joseph Polizzotto via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
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> > Hi:
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> > I am wondering if anyone on this list can share their experience using a
> > braille display + VoiceOver for macOS to read math in Nemeth code. What
> > display do you have and what setup/ configuration did you follow?
> >
> > (I have not had any luck with our Baum Vario 340. I am running the latest
> > version of macOS- High Sierra 10.13.4)
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> > Thanks for your help,
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> Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!
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> ·         University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science,
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> ·         Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
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Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!

   - University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
   year undergraduate student.
   - Accessibility enthusiast.
   - Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
   - Open source enthusiast.
   - Skier.

Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>