[BlindMath] Accessible Calculators:

Thu Nov 29 04:44:07 UTC 2018

Also things like calculators on android and IOS phones can do simple Calculations.  Of course like people have mentioned there are online calculators that are powerful and free like Desmos.

Ken

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From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Aqil Sajjad via BlindMath
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessible Calculators:

Just to add one more bit, if you're only looking for some basic number crunching, then there are also some very simple software options without having to learn matlab or maple. For example, the calculator application in windows used to be accessible via jaws. Microsoft excel can also do an amazing amount of stuff. Just put an equal sign followed by the formula for whatever you're trying to calculate. Then there is also an accessible graphing calculator software sold by View plus.

You shouldn't need a hardware calculator unless you're taking a course or exam where you're not allowed to use a software.

Also, I fully agree that if you're going into a field where you need to do a lot of sophisticated math, then you really want to learn maple or matlab.

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From: "Santiago Velasquez via BlindMath" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessible Calculators:

> HI Ken, thanks for your response.
>
> I was not aware that software calculators were not allowed in schools in 
> the USA. I am based in Australia.
>
> I do have to agree with you regarding one thing. If you only need to pass 
> your degree, software calculators are a little bit harder to learn at the 
> beginning. However, if you do plan to continue with Maths after your 
> degree, a software calculator is much better in the long term.
>
> Regards
> Santi
>
>
>> On 28 Nov 2018, at 9:42 pm, Ken Perry via BlindMath 
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The major problem with the software calculators is they are not allowed 
>> on standardized tests in schools.   The second problem is you spend a lot 
>> of time learning the tool such as matlab etc and not doing your course 
>> work.  You probably should learn more powerful tools if you're going to 
>> continue on with math but if your just doing math as a means to get a 
>> degree and you're not interested in sticking with math learning something 
>> like matlab is overkill. The Orion TI-84 is designed using the TI-84 
>> because still to this day most math books are using it as the examples. 
>> Most math classes across the USA are using it as the base tool.  This 
>> means a blind student doesn't need to do anything different.  As Bill 
>> said the only difference is the MathPrint mode is not yet supported on 
>> the Orion TI-84.  That is just a graphical system to do problems as they 
>> are printed on paper.  The calculator loses no functionality with out 
>> that mode so you can do everything your counter parts in class are doing 
>> and the instructor in most cases does not have to even change the way 
>> instruction is done.     You can get up and running with the Orion TI-84 
>> in no time.  I would say the only weird thing about the Orion TI-84 is 
>> you have to charge the top part and put batteries in the bottom part. 
>> That confuses some people because if the calculator stops talking they 
>> sometimes don't understand they have to keep the top part charge to keep 
>> it talking while the batteries in the bottom part keep the TI-84 going. 
>> With that said the Orion TI-84 is not hard to learn when you are in a 
>> class that is using it.    It is not hard to learn if you are using it on 
>> your own for that matter.  It is just easier to learn when your in a 
>> class where everyone else is using the same tools.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Santiago 
>> Velasquez via BlindMath
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:57 PM
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>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Santiago Velasquez <zanty410 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessible Calculators:
>>
>> Hi Kendra,
>>
>> Have you considered looking at software calculators instead. Something 
>> like MatLab.
>>
>> In the long term they will provide more flexibility, and from experience 
>> they are more accessible. I personally use MatLab for my engineering 
>> degree, and I just cannot justify the handheld calculators.
>>
>> regards
>> Santi
>>
>>
>>> On 28 Nov 2018, at 6:59 am, Kendra Schaber via BlindMath 
>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all! I’m required to use an IT83 in my math class in January. I was 
>>> also recamended to work with the APH TI84 because it has the added 
>>> talking peace added onto it. Unfortunently, when I talked with my 
>>> education team just before lunch, the APH Ti84 got some sceptisism and 
>>> my technology teacher also didn’t get enough good reviews regarding this 
>>> calculator. Has anyone used it in math class? If so, what are your 
>>> experiences with the APH TI84 graphic calculator with the talking peace 
>>> added to it? How did it work for you? Were you able to use it 
>>> independently and without problems? If not, what are the problems? How 
>>> did you get around those problems? Are there areas where you have to 
>>> have sited help with this calculator? Can you use it out of the box? Did 
>>> a sited person have to set it up for you? Even more importantly, are you 
>>> able to use the whole calculator without sited help? The more I know 
>>> about this calculator, the marrier!!! I need to educate my education 
>>> team myself on this matter.
>>>
>>>
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