[BlindMath] Learning High School Math

Mon Jul 19 23:50:26 UTC 2021

Hi @Susan Jolly and @Susan Osterhaus,

Thanks for going through my mail and providing the suggestions. I got the attachment from the mail itself. I will go through the videos in near future.

Thanks
Shail

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 7:41 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Susan Jolly <easjolly at ix.netcom.com>; momdadofarushi at hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [BlindMath] Learning High School Math

Hi Shail,

I think Susan has summed up things quite nicely for you. Regarding learning the Nemeth Code, I'm attaching the pdf of a Power Point on Learning and Teaching the Nemeth Code from a few months ago, which includes several resources and URL links that you may find helpful. I'm not sure if the list allows attachments, so if this doesn't come through, please contact me privately, and I'll send it to you directly. These resources include
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https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.uscupstate.edu%2Facademics%2Fschool-of-education-human-performance&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5212d740b72b47e1bb3508d94739c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619135946413340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=q59vHQ5yNV7BpAuktdlUw3%2BUiDHHzJ5cj28rjOBfma8%3D&reserved=0
-and-health/graduate-programs/project-inspire/ and many more.

In addition, I do have a few resources on a portion of the TSBVI website, which you may find helpful. Math videos can be found at:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tsbvi.edu%2Fvideos-webinars%2Fmathematics&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5212d740b72b47e1bb3508d94739c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619135946413340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=32wNmCT1wpKEk78iuW57LKH9KLcxt3TFxDA4jlRB2A8%3D&reserved=0. Other math information can be found at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tsbvi.edu%2Fmath&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5212d740b72b47e1bb3508d94739c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619135946413340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2FcqENuWJZcwD%2BsjYQZkddzmtJwkMyRVwHmOV%2BZrfqHw%3D&reserved=0

Best wishes,
Susan

Susan A Osterhaus
Statewide Mathematics Consultant
Outreach Programs
Texas School for the Blind
  And Visually Impaired
1100 West 45th Street
Austin, TX 78756
susanosterhaus at tsbvi.edu
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Jolly via BlindMath
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:17 PM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Cc: Susan Jolly <easjolly at ix.netcom.com>
Subject: [BlindMath] Learning High School Math

Hi Shail,

Your list of  all the items that are all going at the same time seems overwhelming to me.  You write that your daughter is about to study Algebra
2 and is looking forward solving math problems independently which are great goals.

Meanwhile these are some of the things she is doing:
1. Learning Nemeth (but knows braille)
2. Learning LaTeX
3. Improving her use of  the Word Equation Editor 4. Using JAWS 5.
Learning NVDA 6. Trying to understand spoken math 7. Perhaps improving her facitly with the very nice braille display she has

And these are some of the problems to be addressed:
1. Reading math and obtaining math to read 2. Writing math and making it available to sighted persons 3. Learning math from sources on the Web

I think you first need to prioritize what is the most important.  In my opinion learning math in the sense of really understanding it, not just passing tests, is the most  important of these items for a high school student. This can be accomplished by relying on Nemeth braille math for both reading and writing.

As far as getting the classroom math in braille I would leave that issue to others for now.  BTW, in case the others aren't aware of it, the free BrailleBlaster software converts print math, which can be entered in several ways including ASCIIMath, to Nemeth math.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brailleblaster.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5212d740b72b47e1bb3508d94739c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619135946413340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZxqvBvKKnhc0OrD5bnSZbIR5GGS7gPBAjIni5G9SHUo%3D&reserved=0

 As far as learning math from sources on the Web I would replace that with a human math tutor.

As far as making braille math available to a sighted person I would investigate Duxbury's new  feature for translating mathematics braille to inkprint for a sighted teacher. (This is commercial software.)

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.duxburysystems.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fdbt12.5%2Fmathematics%2Fmathemati&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5212d740b72b47e1bb3508d94739c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619135946413340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=1rqqQbQsukn0QQkGUEHGTVJum06xj8pjG7QVM1O9nEU%3D&reserved=0
cs
.htm

Finally I  mention that the ASCII braille used in a BRF file is based on Nemeth braille.  BRF files are one of the options available with the Mantis Q40.  If  the Nemeth math in a BRF file is simply displayed directly in a standard print font many sighted persons could quickly learn to read at least algebra if not higher math.

This article explains the last item:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdotlessbraille.org%2Freadnem.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5212d740b72b47e1bb3508d94739c798%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637619135946423296%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=EfmLrp9LmJEWADm97hooPx1ilDXHbkBIB%2FOE7dFBzm4%3D&reserved=0

Please feel free to contact me privately if that would be helpful.

Best wishes,
Susan Jolly

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