[BlindMath] Learning High School Math

[Neil Soiffer]

Rastislav,

Options are usually a good thing. Good luck on your efforts and I'm sure
the community will appreciate whatever innovations either of us come up
with.

Neil Soiffer

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 5:17 PM Rastislav Kish via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hey there,
>
> ah, we're gonna have two new math systems! :D
>
> My MathPresenter is on its way as well, even though the development was
> temporarily paused in the last months in favor of other projects, but I
> hope I'll be able to resume it soon.
>
>
> Orca is currently undergoing a big refactoring and as a part of this
> effort, I've already suggested to create a new api for math servers like
> NVDA has.
>
> So we could fit both on the open platform I guess, though there'll
> probably be a battle for testers. :D
>
>
> Now, the next months seem ever more interesting.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Rastislav
>
>
> Dňa 26. 7. 2021 o 18:43 Neil Soiffer via BlindMath napísal(a):
> > I wrote MathPlayer and for the most part, what people have said is
> correct.
> > I want to correct a common misunderstanding though. MathPlayer is a
> 32-bit
> > application and indeed won't run in 64-bit Word. BUT... it doesn't need
> to
> > run in Word -- it needs to work with NVDA which is a 32 bit application.
> > You lose the ribbon entry in 64-bit Word, but all the other functionality
> > is still there -- speech, braille, and navigation. The reason for this is
> > that the flow of information is:
> > 1. NVDA encounters a MathType object in a Word document.
> > 2. NVDA asks MathType for the MathML corresponding to the internal
> MathType
> > representation. This is why you need MathType.
> > 3. NVDA calls MathPlayer with the MathML to get the speech, braille, etc.
> >
> > This last step does not involve Word. A similar procedure happens in a
> > browser except that step '2' is "NVDA queries the DOM to get the MathML".
> > Most people use a 64-bit browser and MathPlayer works fine with 64-bit
> > browsers.
> >
> > Sadly WIRIS, the company that bought Design Science, has decided they
> don't
> > want to continue with MathPlayer despite my offer to do updates for free.
> > Because of this, earlier this year I started on a MathPlayer replacement
> > that I call MathCAT: Math Capable Assistive Technology. It is open
> source.
> > It implements most of ClearSpeak at the moment, but still has a few
> months
> > to go before it is ready for real use. I have done a proof of concept
> > connection with NVDA so I know it will work with NVDA. I also spoke with
> > the ORCA (the Linux screen reader) developer and she is interested in
> > incorporating MathCAT there -- so some good news to the few of you who
> use
> > Linux.
> >
> > When MathCAT is ready for beta testing, I will reach out to this mailing
> > list and ask for testers. I'll also need people to help with translations
> > to other languages. MathCAT's external format for speech rules (which are
> > user changeable) differs from MathPlayer. It think they are more
> powerful,
> > easier to read, and easier modify. Because of the difference, converting
> > the 14 different language translations is very error-prone... and I have
> no
> > way to know if the speech that gets generated is correct.
> >
> > Bottom line: stay tuned for an open source replacement to MathPlayer
> that I
> > hope others will contribute to.
> >
> > Neil Soiffer
> >
> > <
> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >
> > Virus-free.
> > www.avg.com
> > <
> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >
> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > _______________________________________________
> > BlindMath mailing list
> > BlindMath at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindMath:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/rastislav.kish%40protonmail.com
> > BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindMath mailing list
> BlindMath at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindMath:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/soiffer%40alum.mit.edu
> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>