[BlindMath] [Blind Math] Coding Group and Coding tutor for Vision Impaired High School Student

Shail M momdadofarushi at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 9 03:07:36 UTC 2022 

Thanks for great suggestions. I also received few private replies as well. All the suggestions are really good and welcoming. 

I guess, I understand now that Python is not inaccessible and it's rather better if one need to find the nesting levels. So, instead of suggesting to go for JAVA, I'll let her chose and if she goes with Python then that's good as well. 

She uses JAWS as screen reader and is doing well in utilizing the features. I hope, one day, she'll become good in NVDA which seems to be a popular choice between users working on Math or Coding (and probably, other STEM subjects).

Thanks
Shail

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of SuperSilly via BlindMath
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 5:32 PM
To: Shail M via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: SuperSilly <xsuper.sillyx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] [Blind Math] Coding Group and Coding tutor for Vision Impaired High School Student

If your daughter knows a bit of python, why not keep on developing python at least to a stage where she can comfortablily write some scripts to perform some basic tasks.

As she has basic knowledge on python, I do not think it is a good idea to suddenly change to learn a new language unless she really wants to do so.

Also, if she can master screen reader very well, indentation is not a problem at all.


Shail M via BlindMath 於 9/2/2022 2:21 寫道:
> Thanks Ken, Jason, Traci, Steve, SuperSilly and others who responded privately! We have joined the mailing list as suggested.
>   
> My daughter knows Python to some extent as she opted for it in the high school and liked it but I was looking forward to help her learn language like JAVA, C#, C++ which uses curly braces as scope delimiter and therefore, I believe, may be more accessible compared to Python’s approach which uses indentation. (that’s my personal opinion though 😊). Moreover, I believe, JAVA is the preferred languages for Comp Science students in Universities so that's another reason for the bias.
>
> I'll also try out the Bookshare to see if there are any interesting books that may help!
>
> Thanks
> Shail
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ken Perry via BlindMath
> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:52 AM
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> You might want to look for mentors.  I have taught two people python and I used to be very active on the original programming lists.  They got to ugly so now I I help people when they ask.  Most of the time all it takes is help getting started.  Of course the problem is not always learning coding but I have found in the two students I have had and  the many I have worked with over the years screen reader  skills have been more problems than learning coding.  If you can't dig through the web pages of information you can't
> learn to code.
>
> I will also point out if it only took reading a book for your  son there are at least 100 python books on Bookshare that are very good.
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> Ken
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> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Traci W via BlindMath
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> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Coding Group and Coding tutor for Vision Impaired High School Student
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> My son is interested in coding and has learned some Python here and there.
> It is very user friendly with a screenreader.  We have not had much luck in finding online programs to use though for tutorials and local camps are completely inaccessible.
>
> Traci
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 6:28 PM Shail M via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am a parent of a High School student who is having severe vision
>> impairment since birth. She is willing to learn Coding in JAVA using
>> Visual Studio Code or any other accessible editor. I was wondering if:
>>
>>
>>    *   Is there's a mailing group for coding learners like this group for
>> Math?
>>    *   Any accessible tutorials that teaches coding to Vision Impaired?
>>    *   Any accessible tutorial for configuring Visual Studio Code to be
>> used by student? Or any other code editor which is accessible.
>>
>> Also, I am wondering if anyone with coding experience want to take on
>> the challenge of tutoring this student JAVA programming? If any of you
>> are interested, please reply to me privately and we can talk further
>> about
> it?
>> Looking forward to hearing from you!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Shail
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