[BlindMath] [Blind Math] Coding Group and Coding tutor for Vision Impaired High School Student

Traci W traci.mwd at gmail.com
Wed Feb 16 18:44:06 UTC 2022


We have found Jaws to work better for Math in Word with LaTex coding - NVDA
struggles to read the math coding correctly.  My daughter is taking Calc at
our local community college while in HS and Jaws is not her preference, but
it works better than NVDA.  I'm sure there is a math add-on for NVDA but we
have found those sometime mess up other things on their laptops so we
rather avoid that!

Traci

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:09 PM Shail M via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Thanks for great suggestions. I also received few private replies as well.
> All the suggestions are really good and welcoming.
>
> I guess, I understand now that Python is not inaccessible and it's rather
> better if one need to find the nesting levels. So, instead of suggesting to
> go for JAVA, I'll let her chose and if she goes with Python then that's
> good as well.
>
> She uses JAWS as screen reader and is doing well in utilizing the
> features. I hope, one day, she'll become good in NVDA which seems to be a
> popular choice between users working on Math or Coding (and probably, other
> STEM subjects).
>
> Thanks
> Shail
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of SuperSilly
> via BlindMath
> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 5:32 PM
> To: Shail M via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: SuperSilly <xsuper.sillyx at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] [Blind Math] Coding Group and Coding tutor for
> Vision Impaired High School Student
>
> If your daughter knows a bit of python, why not keep on developing python
> at least to a stage where she can comfortablily write some scripts to
> perform some basic tasks.
>
> As she has basic knowledge on python, I do not think it is a good idea to
> suddenly change to learn a new language unless she really wants to do so.
>
> Also, if she can master screen reader very well, indentation is not a
> problem at all.
>
>
> Shail M via BlindMath 於 9/2/2022 2:21 寫道:
> > Thanks Ken, Jason, Traci, Steve, SuperSilly and others who responded
> privately! We have joined the mailing list as suggested.
> >
> > My daughter knows Python to some extent as she opted for it in the high
> school and liked it but I was looking forward to help her learn language
> like JAVA, C#, C++ which uses curly braces as scope delimiter and
> therefore, I believe, may be more accessible compared to Python’s approach
> which uses indentation. (that’s my personal opinion though 😊). Moreover, I
> believe, JAVA is the preferred languages for Comp Science students in
> Universities so that's another reason for the bias.
> >
> > I'll also try out the Bookshare to see if there are any interesting
> books that may help!
> >
> > Thanks
> > Shail
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> via BlindMath
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:52 AM
> > To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics' <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: kperry at blinksoft.com
> > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] [Blind Math] Coding Group and Coding tutor for
> Vision Impaired High School Student
> >
> >
> >
> > You might want to look for mentors.  I have taught two people python and
> I used to be very active on the original programming lists.  They got to
> ugly so now I I help people when they ask.  Most of the time all it takes
> is help getting started.  Of course the problem is not always learning
> coding but I have found in the two students I have had and  the many I have
> worked with over the years screen reader  skills have been more problems
> than learning coding.  If you can't dig through the web pages of
> information you can't
> > learn to code.
> >
> > I will also point out if it only took reading a book for your  son there
> are at least 100 python books on Bookshare that are very good.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Traci W via
> BlindMath
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 12:07 PM
> > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Traci W <traci.mwd at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Coding Group and Coding tutor for Vision
> Impaired High School Student
> >
> > My son is interested in coding and has learned some Python here and
> there.
> > It is very user friendly with a screenreader.  We have not had much luck
> in finding online programs to use though for tutorials and local camps are
> completely inaccessible.
> >
> > Traci
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 6:28 PM Shail M via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am a parent of a High School student who is having severe vision
> >> impairment since birth. She is willing to learn Coding in JAVA using
> >> Visual Studio Code or any other accessible editor. I was wondering if:
> >>
> >>
> >>    *   Is there's a mailing group for coding learners like this group
> for
> >> Math?
> >>    *   Any accessible tutorials that teaches coding to Vision Impaired?
> >>    *   Any accessible tutorial for configuring Visual Studio Code to be
> >> used by student? Or any other code editor which is accessible.
> >>
> >> Also, I am wondering if anyone with coding experience want to take on
> >> the challenge of tutoring this student JAVA programming? If any of you
> >> are interested, please reply to me privately and we can talk further
> >> about
> > it?
> >> Looking forward to hearing from you!
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Shail
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