[BlindMath] Current strategies regarding accessible mathematics

Mon Mar 14 18:27:13 UTC 2022

LaTeX is difficult at first, but it eventually becomes intuitive. That is my
experience. To others, it looks like a mess. 

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Thanks for initiating this very useful thread and providing inputs
explaining various ways in which a student can read and write Math problems
successfully. We have been trying to find an optimal way but haven't been
successful so far. 

We primarily focused on Microsoft Word and noticed that the Equation Editor
in MS Word (latest version,  not sure about the legacy version format)
requires to do ALT plus Equals to show up that specific control each time,
an equation has to be written. It works for a single equation but for a
question involving  multiple equations, it makes the process very slow and
doesn't provide an student with VI to solve the question in desired time
frame as the student need to remember all the equations at the same time or
otherwise, read the equation back and forth to write it down from the
question sheet. Also, JAWS doesn't seems to read it properly as well unless
the equation is opened in JAWS Math Viewer window. Copying and pasting the
equation to next line is also a pain as partial copying is not allowed in
the MS Word Math Editor. 
The Math Editor in JAWS gives an opportunity to write an equation in Latex
but nothing for writing in Unicode format (which is another format supported
by MS Word apart from Latex, it's way simpler than Latex though). Just to
mention, there are two formats now supported by latest MS Word, Latex and
Unicode. 

Math Type was mentioned before which allows to write Latex directly in MS
Word but not sure if that's the optimal way either as then the student need
to remember the equation in Latex format rather than the Math equivalent. 

Given, my perspective is from a high schooler, I am hoping that someone may
suggest a better way such that a high schooler can perform optimally during
the exams like SAT which is time bound. Though, the accommodations like
extra time, reader, scribe has been added, yet the confidence that the test
can be completed in required time is lacking. 

Sorry for this post as this may seem out of context of the discussion going
on but hopeful that the seniors can help in this case with their experience.

Thanks
Shail

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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Current strategies regarding accessible mathematics

I've noticed the WCAG compliance of Overleaf is lacking. Especially in its
output formats.

Kind of a bummer since that is what our professors seem to be moving to
because of its collaborative features.

Thanks again for all of your commentary!
David

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Hello John,

I tried overleaf as well a while ago but it did not prove to be very
accessible, which was acknowledged by the developers who were aware of the
issues. Do you know whether or not one has made progress on this matter?

Kind regards,

Bert
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