[BlindMath] Graphiti / Graphiti Plus experiences

Traci W traci.mwd at gmail.com
Sun Mar 27 22:23:12 UTC 2022


I will wait for APH's version I think!  :)

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 6:22 PM Traci W <traci.mwd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wait, what?????  15k - dang!!
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 12:49 PM Nicolas Spohn <nspohn0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes it is for sale but I believe it’s $15,000 or something like that
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 27, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Traci W via BlindMath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Is the Graphiti in actual production yet?
>> >
>> > Traci
>> >
>> >> On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 11:09 PM Ken Perry via BlindMath <
>> >> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have been involved with the development so take anything I say as I
>> am
>> >> slightly biased since I have one and love it. That is the Graphiti.
>> Note
>> >> the
>> >> Graphiti plus. I will say though the additional 40 cell Orbit display
>> on
>> >> the
>> >> Plus excites me.  I am also 100% blind if you don't already know me.
>> >>
>> >> As for using it with scatter plots. You can connect the Graphiti
>> directly
>> >> to
>> >> a TI-84 Talking graphing calculator and it shows scatterplots well. The
>> >> display on the TI-84 is a 96 by 64. So, when it graphs to the Graphiti
>> it
>> >> seems condensed because it is since the Graphiti is 60 by 40. You can
>> view
>> >> it that way or you can expand it and see it as is on the calculator
>> which
>> >> means you must pan once to see everything. With that said it is
>> amazing how
>> >> well it works.
>> >>
>> >> You can also view anything on the TI-84 TGC and be able to pan through
>> the
>> >> graph with the cursor and values displaying on the Graphiti perfectly.
>> It
>> >> really is like using the Calculator sighted. I can even read the x and
>> y
>> >> values by hand even if it is not in braille, I can read the actual
>> numbers
>> >> by feel.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, another comment on scatter plots it's amazing on how easy it is to
>> tell
>> >> how the data is trending even in a compressed 60 by 40 modes before you
>> >> expand it. You can tell if the data is trending to the positive just by
>> >> laying your firsthand the device while it graphs.
>> >>
>> >> You can also get a picture of a scatter plot and put it on the
>> Graphiti.
>> >> Graphiti will show almost all types of Image files with no problem.
>> >>
>> >> I will point out one of the cool things about the Graphiti cells is the
>> >> pins
>> >> can come up while you are viewing it with your hands. This made it
>> amazing
>> >> when I wrote Tetris for it. It is fun to play Tetris again.
>> >>
>> >> I am the one that made the video on the Graphiti with a Microscope,
>> and I
>> >> can tell you, you  can see things like the cavities in an earth worm
>> and we
>> >> even did a live demonstration of fungus growing on a slide which was
>> >> amazing.
>> >>
>> >> I am the one that made all the videos where I code with Turtle graphics
>> >> with
>> >> it, and you can follow the tracks of the turtles on the screen which
>> is as
>> >> amazing as when I did it sighted in High school. I am now 51 one and
>> blind
>> >> so let us just say that is amazing to be able to do something I could
>> do
>> >> sighted as good.
>> >>
>> >> I wrote the NVDA plugin and with that you can send the whole screen or
>> just
>> >> the parts you are viewing. That plugin needs to be advanced but that is
>> >> because I do not use it much attached to NVDA. I am more into using it
>> as a
>> >> tool I can code with or an HDMI monitor with things like an Xbox or
>> even my
>> >> raspberry PI. With that said the NVDA plugin changes how you use a
>> computer
>> >> because you can really make the Graphiti do about anything when it
>> comes to
>> >> showing you part of the screen.
>> >>
>> >>    With what I have done as an NVDA plugin  many people can extend it
>> if
>> >> they wish.
>> >>
>> >> On that note There was also a piece of software created for a student
>> at a
>> >> university called tactviz and it was made to study proteins here is a
>> cut
>> >> from the read me of the software.
>> >> TactViz was designed to improve the biomolecular visualization and
>> analysis
>> >> experience in VMD for users who are blind or visually impaired. It was
>> >> developed based on the needs of student Olivia Shaw in the Hadden Lab
>> at
>> >> the
>> >> University of Delaware. TactViz can be used with electronic refreshable
>> >> tactile display devices (e.g., Graphiti) for interactive biomolecular
>> >> visualization,
>> >> Read more about it here.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/jodihadden/TactViz
>> >>
>> >> She also has some published papers  that also mention the Graphiti if
>> you
>> >> search.
>> >>
>> >> There are also videos of the Graphiti and desmos if you search on You
>> tube
>> >> and you can see some of the fun, they put the Graphiti through.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, one last thing. I have also used the Graphiti with Openscad to
>> create a
>> >> dumbbell shaped thing just to see if I could. It is possible and it is
>> >> something that could be improved on if someone was a 3D nut. I am a
>> >> Software
>> >> engineer and have more fun writing code than making 3D stuff, but my
>> point
>> >> is I would have loved to have this thing when I was in calculus to be
>> able
>> >> to make my own multi-level shell shapes that I could feel on the fly.
>> That
>> >> is for the younger kids now that these tactile devices are coming
>> online.
>> >>
>> >> One thing the Graphiti can do that no other device can is show things
>> with
>> >> multi levels and when it comes to viewing images, which is a very
>> important
>> >> feature.  Anyway, since I am a bit biased, I should end this here. I
>> can
>> >> tell you this though. My Graphiti does not sit on my table and get no
>> work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Robin
>> Williams
>> >> via BlindMath
>> >> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 10:56 AM
>> >> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> >> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Cc: Robin Williams <Robin.Williams at atass-sports.co.uk>
>> >> Subject: [BlindMath] Graphiti / Graphiti Plus experiences
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone on this list have experience with the Graphiti or Graphiti
>> Plus
>> >> from Orbit Research?
>> >> http://www.orbitresearch.com/product/graphiti-plus/
>> >> I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has used one of
>> these
>> >> devices to view graphics that are commonly used in statistical
>> research, in
>> >> particular scatter plots involving many datapoints, as well as any
>> other
>> >> interesting use cases.
>> >>
>> >> With thanks,
>> >> Robin
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