[BlindMath] Trouble With UEB

dana.mohsen.azim at gmail.com dana.mohsen.azim at gmail.com
Tue Aug 8 23:23:30 UTC 2023


Hello,
Thank you for your reply.
Even though I have been completely blind since birth and may not use this method of math, I still have an interest in understanding how it actually works; I just don't get the explanation on the website.
For instance,, it is mentioned that dot 5 followed by dots 2 5 are used for horizontal line mode, but in the examples given, several instances of dots 2 5 are preceded by dot 5.
I hope I'm making sense; the tutorial is quite confusing and I'm still really interested in understanding the way it works.
Best,
Dana

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Gillen <daniel.l.gillen at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 1:48 AM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dana mohsen <dana.mohsen.azim at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Trouble With UEB

Dear Dana,

As someone who grew up studying the Nemeth code for all of my math classes and went on to study physics in college, I might also ask the same question about spatial  arrangements for basic arithmetic. Since I was born blind and have always read braille, I haven’t personally seen spatial math to be useful to me as a student. However, spatial math is taught to sighted students true elementary school years, and it is valuable that braille is transcribed to follow print as closely as possible for the given applications of the material. That said, I and other primary braille users have basically forgotten about spatial in favor of linear when we arrived at algebra, which made it far more feasible to do math work on a Braille notetaker as opposed to a Perkins Brailler. I guess my point is that in order to follow along with the normal method of teaching arithmetic operations in elementary school, it is better to show the operations in action using a spatial setup in braille. That is, one would actually be able to “carry over” in the different place values to keep track of the operation in progress. In addition, doing long division problems  can be explained more easily to a blind student if they are provided with the spatial layout in braille. Thus, regardless of whether you are using Nemeth or UEB math, having some understanding of spatial arrangements is helpful, especially if you are planning on teaching a blind student of elementary school age doing arithmetic with their sighted peers. If anyone else can provide some insights on this topic, that would be great.

Best,
Daniel

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> On Aug 8, 2023, at 4:56 PM, dana mohsen via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Blind Mathers,
> Quick question: I'm currently learning math UEB and am using the APH
> tutorial:
> https://uebmath.aphtech.org/
> However, I got stuck on the lesson discussing spatial arrangements 
> (lesson 3.2). I'm confused by the use of the double-numerics, and, 
> most of all, the vertical and horizontal line indicators (dots5+dots 2 
> 5 and dots 4 5 6,
> respectively.)
> How is spatial arrangement even helpful?
> I hope I'm making some sense. :)
> Best,
> Dana
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