[BlindMath] [program-l] Re: Copying Math Expressions in HTML

[Neil Soiffer]

If you are using NVDA+MathCAT, once you begin navigating the expression,
cntrl+c will copy the MathML. It will copy whatever subexpression is the
current focus. JAWS has an option to use MathCAT, but I'm not sure if that
extends to navigation yet. There is a feature request to add an option to
copy the speech rather than the MathML. I'll get to that one of these days.

Regardless of whether you use a screen reader or not, copying text *and *math
(i.e., a larger selection) in a browser (at least with Chrome or Firefox)
into a plain text editor is pretty much a disaster. Even without math,
copying from a browser to a text editor can be a disaster. However, the
browsers write to the clipboard an HTML format in addition to various text
formats, so if you have some software capable of pasting that, you will get
the MathML (or text if it was alt text to an image) for the math.

I hope that clarifies things a bit,

Neil Soiffer

On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 7:56 AM Fawaz abdul rahman via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hey, You can try the speech history addon, I think you'll be able to copy
> it by just pressing f12.
> But probably it won't keep the format but just to review it.
> GitHub - jscholes/nvda-speech-history: An updated version of the Clip Copy
> add-on (originally by Tyler Spivey) for NVDA.
> <https://github.com/jscholes/nvda-speech-history>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:20 PM Jonathan Fine <jfine2358 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sent to both BlindMath and VI coders lists. Read on to see why.
> >
> > Hi Dana
> >
> > I'm glad you've solved your problem. Your comments and a tutorial from
> > Lewis Wood have given me two ideas. They relate design and documentation,
> > and I do them in that order.  Perhaps users (blindmath) are more
> interested
> > in design, and coders in documentation.
> >
> > Here's the design idea. Perhaps what you want is a simple "Copy math"
> > button after some or all formulas. And also a "Copy all math" or
> something
> > similar.
> >
> > Here's a link to the page Lewi Wood wrote:
> > https://lewislwood.github.io/jwt-auth-role-express/
> >
> > Here's the documentation idea. Being a sighted user, I didn't know that
> > shift+f10 brings up the MathJax menu, and hence its "Copy to clipboard".
> So
> > I did the following search:
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=mathajx+shift+f10
> >
> > I've looked at six promising links from this search (listed below). From
> > this it seems that a resource explaining MathJax, suitable for blind
> > newcomers, is not yet available.
> >
> > https://github.com/mathjax/MathJax/issues/939
> >
> >
> https://math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/29770/is-mathjax-accessible-for-people-using-screen-readers
> >
> >
> https://math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/mathjax-basic-tutorial-and-quick-reference
> >
> >
> https://copyprogramming.com/howto/is-mathjax-accessible-for-people-using-screen-readers
> > https://jupyterlab.readthedocs.io/en/stable/user/commands.html
> > https://fhsu.pressbooks.pub/fhsuguide/chapter/add-mathematical-notation/
> >
> > with kind regards
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> > with kind regards
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
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