[BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen Readers

Fri Jul 21 19:12:29 UTC 2017

Windows is no no computer hardware here.  If I can't do a talking bare 
metal install of an operating system like what happens with Apple's os 
10.4 and up when a mac gets taken out of the packaging for the first 
time I won't have that operating system where I live.  Everything I have 
is Linux on towers and android on a tablet and ios 10.33 is available 
for my iphone and I'm installing that as I write.  I was using emacs 
with nvda on windows earlier and that was Windows 7.

Why I am so picky about operating system choice is malware ransomware 
and when I need to reinstall an operating system invariably I can't get 
sighted assistance for at least a month.

On Fri, 21 Jul 2017, Liz Hare wrote:

> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 12:40:50
> From: Liz Hare <doggene at earthlink.net>
> To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Cc: Liz Hare via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen Readers
> 
> Thanks Jude,
> My experience was that Window-Eyes just didn't work with Emacs very well. I'm curious about which screen you are using now for this. Are you able to do it with NVDA?
>
> Thanks,
> Liz
>
>
> Liz Hare, PhD
> Dog Genetics LLC
> doggene at earthlink.net
> http://www.doggenetics.com <http://www.doggenetics.com/>
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> At first I had trouble using emacs in windows until I got instructions on how inside emacs to locate where emacs thought its home directory was located.  When I found that, then I knew where to put my .emacs file. The .emacs file needs renaming to _emacs for the windows version too.
>> That was emacs without statistical applications running with it and probably additional configuration details will be coming for those packages.
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017, Liz Hare via BlindRUG wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 11:53:49
>>> From: Liz Hare via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>>
>>> To: Blind R Users Group <blindrug at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>>
>>> Cc: Liz Hare <doggene at earthlink.net <mailto:doggene at earthlink.net>>
>>> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen Readers
>>> Yes, I'm very curious about how Robin is using Emacs in Windows with a screen reader!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Liz
>>>
>>> Liz Hare, PhD
>>> Dog Genetics LLC
>>> doggene at earthlink.net
>>> http://www.doggenetics.com <http://www.doggenetics.com/> <http://www.doggenetics.com/ <http://www.doggenetics.com/>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Liz,
>>>> Robin, would be waiting for your reply.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/17, Williams, Robin via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I use R with Emacs (not Emacspeak) under windows on a daily basis, it's by
>>>>> far my preferred method of working. I'm away on holiday this week, so am
>>>>> very short of time. I'll reply in more detail next week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bests
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Liz Hare
>>>>> via BlindRUG
>>>>> Sent: 20 July 2017 14:30
>>>>> To: Blind R Users Group
>>>>> Cc: Liz Hare
>>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen
>>>>> Readers
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Laxmisagar,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's pretty difficult to use a screen reader with Emacs in Windows,
>>>>> unless you can get Emacspeak running. There is a port of Emacspeak for
>>>>> Windows but it's not in wide use and I don't have direct experience with
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do use R with Emacspeak on Mac and have also done it on Linux. Emacs has a
>>>>> package called Emacs Speaks Statistics (ESS) that facilitates running R
>>>>> interactively. I like this setup but it has a pretty steep learning curve
>>>>> and I kind of learn the bits and pieces I need as I go along.
>>>>>
>>>>> Liz
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 7:02 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG
>>>>>> <blindrug at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone has any experience in using Emacs as an editing
>>>>>> application for statistical softwares like, R, SAS and STATA with
>>>>>> screen readers on a windows machine?
>>>>>> I request for some help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Laxmisagar
>>>>>> Mumbai (India)
>>>>>>
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