[BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen Readers

Wed Jul 26 07:25:52 UTC 2017

Hi Robin,

Thanks for the time, I have added R to the path environment variable,
but unable to edit anything on the emacs buffer.
can I directly start writing R commands in the emacs buffer? or
something else is required?
I am a beginner in this, hence would request for a detailed instructions.

Thank you
Laxmisagar

On 7/25/17, Williams, Robin via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Appologies for the slow response - I've been away getting married.
>
> In brief, I use Vincent Goulet's modified distribution of Emacs, which comes
> bundled with Emacs Speaks Statistics (and other utilities). In all honesty I
> haven't done anything particularly special to make this work. I'm currently
> using JAWS 17 under Windows 7, although I've also had reports that it works
> well with NVDA.
> The experience isn't perfect, but it works well enough for me. I regularly
> have to refresh the virtual screen buffer (JAWS key + escape), but apart
> from that it works as I would like. Install this, and make sure your current
> version of R is added to your system PATH environment variable. You should
> then be able to launch the R process with Alt+x R.
>
> My typical workflow is to have the R process window open and to be editing
> commands in a separate Emacs buffer (make sure this is saved with a .r or .R
> extension). I then have full use of the handy Emacs Speaks Statistics
> keystrokes. The keystrokes I use most commonly are:
> CTRL+c CTRL+j - send the current line to the R process for execution
> CTRL+c CTRL+r - send the currently selected region for execution, you must
> first select the block of code you wish to send in the standard Emacs way,
> i.e. I can provide further instructions, or you can find out online.
> CTRL+Alt+; - comment / uncomment the selected region
> CTRL+Alt+f - move to the end of the current code block. I've only discovered
> this recently, and find it particularly useful. Place the cursor on the
> opening brace ({) of a function definition or a control flow statement, and
> press CTRL+Alt+f to move to the end of the current block.
>
> There are many other keystrokes available, which I should make more use of.
> One keystroke to be aware of is the _ - by default this prints the R arrow
> (<-), to produce the _ character you must press it twice.
> I recommend you set your screenreader to announce all punctuation, and
> modify your .emacs file as you find necessary (I can go in to further
> details, but mine is pretty standard). For now, let me know how you get on.
>
> Bests,
> Robin
>
> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Liz Hare
> via BlindRUG
> Sent: 21 July 2017 16:54
> To: Blind R Users Group
> Cc: Liz Hare
> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen
> Readers
>
> Yes, I'm very curious about how Robin is using Emacs in Windows with a
> screen reader!
>
> Thanks!
> Liz
>
> Liz Hare, PhD
> Dog Genetics LLC
> doggene at earthlink.net<mailto:doggene at earthlink.net>
> http://www.doggenetics.com
>
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG
> <blindrug at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
> Thank you Liz,
> Robin, would be waiting for your reply.
>
>
> On 7/20/17, Williams, Robin via BlindRUG
> <blindrug at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I use R with Emacs (not Emacspeak) under windows on a daily basis, it's by
> far my preferred method of working. I'm away on holiday this week, so am
> very short of time. I'll reply in more detail next week.
>
> Bests
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Liz Hare
> via BlindRUG
> Sent: 20 July 2017 14:30
> To: Blind R Users Group
> Cc: Liz Hare
> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen
> Readers
>
> Hi Laxmisagar,
>
> I think it's pretty difficult to use a screen reader with Emacs in Windows,
> unless you can get Emacspeak running. There is a port of Emacspeak for
> Windows but it's not in wide use and I don't have direct experience with
> it.
>
> I do use R with Emacspeak on Mac and have also done it on Linux. Emacs has
> a
> package called Emacs Speaks Statistics (ESS) that facilitates running R
> interactively. I like this setup but it has a pretty steep learning curve
> and I kind of learn the bits and pieces I need as I go along.
>
> Liz
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 7:02 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG
> <blindrug at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone has any experience in using Emacs as an editing
> application for statistical softwares like, R, SAS and STATA with
> screen readers on a windows machine?
> I request for some help.
>
> Thank you
> Laxmisagar
> Mumbai (India)
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindRUG mailing list
> BlindRUG at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindRUG at nfbnet.org>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindRUG:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindrug_nfbnet.org/doggene%40earthl
> ink.net
> The list archive can be viewed at:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> More information and useful links about using R as a blind person can be
> obtained at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz
>
> Look for help using R commands by reading the accessible e-book "Let's Use
> R Now" compiled by Jonathan Godfrey at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz/lurn/front.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindRUG mailing list
> BlindRUG at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindRUG at nfbnet.org>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindRUG:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindrug_nfbnet.org/r.m.williams%40exeter.ac.uk
> The list archive can be viewed at:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> More information and useful links about using R as a blind person can be
> obtained at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz
>
> Look for help using R commands by reading the accessible e-book "Let's Use
> R
> Now" compiled by Jonathan Godfrey at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz/lurn/front.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindRUG mailing list
> BlindRUG at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindRUG at nfbnet.org>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindRUG:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindrug_nfbnet.org/laxmisagar304%40gmail.com
> The list archive can be viewed at:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> More information and useful links about using R as a blind person can be
> obtained at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz
>
> Look for help using R commands by reading the accessible e-book "Let's Use
> R
> Now" compiled by Jonathan Godfrey at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz/lurn/front.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindRUG mailing list
> BlindRUG at nfbnet.org<mailto:BlindRUG at nfbnet.org>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindRUG:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindrug_nfbnet.org/doggene%40earthlink.net
> The list archive can be viewed at:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> More information and useful links about using R as a blind person can be
> obtained at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz
>
> Look for help using R commands by reading the accessible e-book "Let's Use R
> Now" compiled by Jonathan Godfrey at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz/lurn/front.html
>
>