[Blindtlk] PAC Mate question

Sat Oct 25 18:26:55 UTC 2008

As I recall, the TNS is the original model, and the QX is the newer 
one.  I wouldn't bother with the TNS, it is hardware that is 4 or 5 
years old now.

The QX will do the things you mention, you can get one with a Braille 
or a QWERTY keyboard.  Which one is best depends on your style 
although personally I like the qwerty one.  There are to many 
multi-key commands that are a hassle in Braille.

You will need a network card to ge t access to the internet, talk to 
FS about what it supports.  A price of $400 for a used one, as long 
as it works isn't bad.

Dave

At 11:12 AM 10/25/2008, you wrote:
>I have some question on the PAC Mate.
>
>1. I'm looking at buying a PAC Mate, either TNS or QX- Which is the better
>for tasks like: basic email, typing word documents, surfing the internet,
>able play Ebook/DAISY, voice recording and general note take in class.
>
>2. Will the TNS or QX work with Windows Vista, or do I still need to work on
>Windows XP?
>
>3. How do I get internet access?
>
>Oh is a TNS for $200 through $250-- and a PAC Mate QX for $400 a good deal ?
>
>Sorry new to Note Takers.
>
>Any information would be great.
>
>Feel to contact me off list, or call me.
>Thanks
>
>Yours,
>Sean Moore
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> > From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] Server Report
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> > From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul at asmodean.net> (by way of David Andrews
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> > Subject: [Blindtlk] Window-Eyes 7.01 Is Now Available!]
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> > Subject: Window-Eyes 7.01 Is Now Available!
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> > From: gw-news at gwmicro.com
> > Reply-To: aaron at gwmicro.com
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> > GW Micro is proud to announce the official release of Window-Eyes 7.01.
> >
> > Thanks to customer feedback and the tireless efforts of the Window-Eyes
> > Error Reporting feature (and those who choose to send in error reports)
> > Window-Eyes 7.01 boasts more stability, reliability, and performance
> > than ever before.
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> > Window-Eyes scripting is changing the accessible landscape of computers,
> > and the increased stability that Window-Eyes 7.01 provides means being
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> > Window-Eyes, and has increased Window-Eyes marketability across the globe.
> >
> > While Window-Eyes 7.01 is a minor upgrade, it packs a significant punch
> > including a few new features along with several bug fixes. A complete
> > list of all changes is included below.
> >
> > Window-Eyes 7.01 is a FREE upgrade to Window-Eyes 7.0 users. To install
> > Window-Eyes 7.01, you must already have a working copy of Window-Eyes
> > 7.0 installed (Retail, Demo, Evaluation, Dongle, Everlock, and
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> >        iTunes
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> > We resolved several issues relating to iTunes, including support for
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> > Window-Eyes does not automatically enable Browse Mode when the iTunes
> > Store option is selected, meaning you can successfully arrow through all
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> >        Scripting
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> > If Window-Eyes is localized in a language that a script was not
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> > Window-Eyes will always be able to interrupt English hotkey names. They
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> > matter what language Window-Eyes is localized in, or what languages the
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> >
> > You can now use language id strings in the XML resource, such as "en" or
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> > If was possible for a script to not successfully restart, but you would
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> > We fixed a problem where scripts could error when invoking
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> > We fixed a problem where you couldn't Control or Shift-Click using the
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> > We fixed a version comparison problem when installing script package
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> > Window-Eyes now ensures that any read only attributes on script files
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:12:11 -0400
> > From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] Board Meeting: National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users
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> >    On Sunday, October 26, 2008, at 8:00 pm Eastern, the Board of Directors
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> > National Federation of the Blind,  will hold its monthly meeting. This
> > meeting is open to anyone who wishes to observe the proceedings. Times
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> >    The Association has been very busy dealing with a number of important
> > issues of interest to service animal users. In particular, we are working
> > with a national transportation service and a biological manufacturing
> > company to modify their discriminatory practices regarding persons with
> > disabilities who choose to use service animals. We are also in touch with
> > a hospital in new York to establish more effective policies and training
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> > Brown and Linda Pettit (Wisconsin), and margo Downey (New York) for their
> > respective work on these issues. In all of these cases, NAGDU is
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> > industries. If you are a guide dog user or interested in blindness and
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:07:51 -0500
> > From: Peter Altschul <paltschul at CENTURYTEL.NET> (by way of David
> > Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>)
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] Braille Math Translation Made Easy with the
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> > Braille Math Translation Made Easy with the Tiger Software
> > SuiteBraille Math Translation Made Easy with the Tiger Software Suite
> >
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> > News Release
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> > For Immediate Release - Thursday, October 23, 2008
> >
> > Braille Math Translation Made Easy with the Tiger Software Suite
> >
> > October 23, 2008 Corvallis Oregon -ViewPlus Technologies and Design
> > Science announced today the release of a new update to the ViewPlus
> > Tiger Software Suite
> > 4 (TSS) for braille math support within Microsoft Word. The new
> > version TSS 4.1 works with Design Science's MathType version 5.0 or
> > higher, allowing users
> > to create mathematical equations within MathType and translate to
> > braille with one touch.
> >
> > The collaboration between ViewPlus and Design Science has provided
> > users with a new option for creating custom math documents. Users who
> > prefer to create
> > documents within MS Word can insert equations from MathType, add
> > desired text and graphics, and translate to braille in one easy step.
> > Equations will appear
> > in both braille and ink allowing sighted readers to follow along. The
> > documents can then be embossed using a Tiger embosser for high
> > resolution tactile
> > output.
> >
> > An example image of Nemeth printout
> >
> > "TSS is another example of the fruitful cooperation between Design
> > Science and ViewPlus. TSS makes authoring and reading documents that
> > contain math easier
> > than ever. Math is taught everyday in every school, and using
> > MathType and TSS makes it easy for teachers to provide access to
> > materials for everyone in
> > the classroom, whether they are sighted or not," said Neil Soiffer,
> > Senior Scientist at Design Science.
> >
> > The Tiger Software Suite currently outputs to Nemeth and LaTeX, and
> > additional math codes will be available in 2009. The braille math
> > translator within
> > TSS is a free update for current 4.0 users.
> >
> > For more information about the Tiger Software Suite with braille math
> > support please visit:
> > www.viewplus.com
> >
> > To learn more about MathType from Design Science, please visit:
> > www.dessci.com
> >
> > About ViewPlus Technologies
> > ViewPlus Technologies, Inc. is a private firm that develops and
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> > disabilities, including people
> > who are blind, people who have low vision and those who are learning
> > disabled. For more information please visit the ViewPlus website,
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> > more information please
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> >
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