[Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
Graves, Diane
dgraves at icrc.IN.gov
Mon Jun 22 12:54:08 UTC 2009
Okay, okay. I know this is old business, but I can't resist the urge to
make a contribution. I like being in the midst of "fires." LOL
Going barefoot, for the most part, is not my thing any more than
climbing mount Everest (spelling?) is something I personally am inclined
to do. But that doesn't mean that another blind person who feels so
inclined shouldn't do those things. We are just as unique and
individual as are the sighted.
Nope, I stepped on a bee when I was a kid, and it cured me. I might add
that my husband, who is sighted, is even more fanatical about having
something on his feet than I am.
Diane Graves
Civil Rights Specialist
Indiana Civil Rights Commission
Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
317-232-2647
"IT is service that measures success."
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:48 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
Heck; sighted people don't look where they're going half the time
anyway! AS I say, whether one goes barefoot has more to do with whether
one's lawn has clover (thus inviting honeybees) than anything else! <g>
Mine doesn't but I compromise and wear flip-flops!
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Porter" <freespirit1 at tds.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
thank you mary for saying this. I enjoy going barefoot both indoors and
outside. I live out in the country and as soon as the weather gets wwarm
enough, I go barefoot. However, I never thought my decision to do so has
anything to do with blindness.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Merry Schoch" <merrys at verizon.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>I never have shoes on in the house. My favorite thing to do is pick
>stuff
>up with my toes (smile). My daughter and granddaughter do the same.
>Hey
>why bend when you can lift?
>
> I did not respond to this post when it first came out because I
> thought
> the question was a bit silly. I don't see it as a blindness issue and
> I
> don't do anything different now when it comes to shoes then I did when
> I
> was fully sighted. I did learn the feel of the different textures -
> from
> asphalt to concrete - and this waswith my shoes on. However, it was
> nothing spectacular just a matter of paying attention.
>
> My three year old grandchild has already been taught that calling
> someone
> "stupid" is an insult, and she doesn't do it or she'll be scolded. I
> am
> heading to grad school and I graduated with my B.S. with honors. I
> would
> hate to think that not wearing shoes would negate all my hard work.
>
> Merry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>
>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> I don't know you personally, will probably never meet you, and I
>> cannot
>> begin to tell you what incredible joy that brings me. When you used
>> the
>> word "crap" in your post, that is a perfect description of your
>> attitude.
>> I know I am going to hear about what I just said from people on the
>> list
>> and probably the list owner, but so be it. I am barefoot in my own
>> home
>> all the time, am not a stupid, uncoordinated or clumsy person. How
>> dare
>> you to be so presumtuous about other blind people, and yes, I
>> probably
>> spelled that word wrong.
>>
>> Connie Canode
>> At 06:09 PM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
>>>Hello Jeff. Yes, we only discuss this kind of thing when you are at
>>>work,
>>>because we know under your supervision it would never be tolerated.
>>>Let
>>>me point out, if I may, that not all blind people are diabetics, that
>>>not
>>>all blind people stub their toes when they go barefooted in the
>>>familiar
>>>surroundings of their home, and that some of us do find that the
>>>ability
>>>to feel with our feet is of tremendous importance when doing things
>>>such
>>>as vacuuming, mopping, and, incidentally, looking for dropped change.
>>>It
>>>is not as simple as saying that anyone with brains wears shoes, and
>>>anyone who is blind is necessarily stupid if they don't. Get a grip!
>>>
>>>Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Schwartz"
>>><sidney.schwartz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:15 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is this the kind of crap you folks discuss when I'm at work. I
>>>>would
>>>>say
>>>>yes, if you happen to be blind and stupid. In the house there is
>>>>the
>>>>problem of toe stubbing, etc. Outside, who knows what kind of
>>>>disgusting
>>>>or dangerous thing you can step on or into. At the beech, along the
>>>>water
>>>>line is nice. Then there is the high correlation between diabetes
>>>>and
>>>>blindness from diabetic retinopathy. People with diabetes have
>>>>neuropathy.
>>>>They lose the feelings in their extremities, like feet. Also they
>>>>don't
>>>>heal well. I had a patient who, in his home, barefoot, he stepped
>>>>on a
>>>>nail. It was in his foot and became infected after a week or so.
>>>>As a
>>>>consequence he lost his leg. That must have given him a feeling of
>>>>freedom.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>On
>>>>Behalf Of Ron Poire
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:38 PM
>>>>To: Ray Foret jr; Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>I like going barefoot in my own home.
>>>>I never thought about mopping the floor or vacuuming barefoot. I
>>>>would
>>>>be
>>>>afraid of stubbing my toe on something, which would ruin the whole
>>>>pleasurable experience.
>>>>I would definitely not go barefoot in a public place, because of
>>>>diseases
>>>>and toe stubbing. Not to mention national convention, where one's
>>>>feet
>>>>are
>>>>quite vulnerable to people's canes and sniffing dogs.
>>>>It's a great comic discussion, on a par with walking barefoot in the
>>>>woods.
>>>>
>>>>Ron Poire
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr"
>>>><rforetjr at comcast.net>
>>>>To: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
>>>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:19 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Especially when the floors are all completely smooth tile, as they
>>>>>are
>>>>>in
>>>>>my
>>>>>new place.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>>>>>
>>>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years
>>>>>abroad
>>>>>you
>>>>>come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your
>>>>>own
>>>>>land"
>>>>>George Seferis
>>>>>
>>>>>Phone or Fax::
>>>>>+1 (985) 360-3614
>>>>>Cell:
>>>>>+1 (985) 791-2938
>>>>>e-mail:
>>>>>rforetjratcomcastdotnet
>>>>>Skype Name:
>>>>>barefootedray
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wunder"
>>>>><gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:43 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Vacuuming and mopping are much easier because it is easy for one to
>>>>>see
>>>>>his/her work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Millhoff"
>>>>><kmillhoff at gmail.com>
>>>>>To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing
>>>>>List"
>>>>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:31 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, you could have Robert make a TP out of this; and, yes, you
>>>>>>haven't
>>>>>>asked this question for quite some time. I would bet that the
>>>>>>additional tactile and vestibular info offered by bare feet is
>>>>>>valuable to blind people. to say nothing of the fact that shoes
>>>>>>carry
>>>>>>some pretty yucky stuff into the house. You should move to the
>>>>>>islands
>>>>>>where people wear shoes when necessary, but mostly are barefoot
>>>>>>inside
>>>>>>and wearing zoris (what you guys call flip-flops) outside. (some
>>>>>>folks
>>>>>>also call them slippers, but they're not the bedroom slipper
>>>>>>kind). I
>>>>>>seldom find shoes that work well for me, and this includes Berkies
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>the rest.
>>>>>>also, it's always summer here I'm glad to say.
>>>>>>best,
>>>>>>kat
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 6/17/09, Ray Foret jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>With summer practically upon us? I just thought I'd throw this
>>>>>>>out
>>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>>Should blind people go barefoot; either inside or outside? It's
>>>>>>>been
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>couple or three years since somebody else broached the subject;
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>so,
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>just thought I'd get the general opinions out there. Can it be
>>>>>>>tied
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>blindness in any way? IF so, why? IF not, why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>kathy millhoff - "Let each morn be better than its eve, and each
>>>>>>morrow richer than its yesterday."
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